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nickyjsmith 22nd Apr 2008 12:10

Guy's and girl's,
Look at OAA's website, 36 out of 63 graduate placement's this year to Ryanair. That mean's £70k for the course and they still had to pay £20k for the type rating.

Be careful with your money, if you can get any.

wangus 22nd Apr 2008 12:27

Do not part with your money easily
 
Been job hunting for months. Closed doors everywhere, and I work on the ground at a large airport with many contacts for multiple airlines. Empty promises made over the last few years are proving infuriating. Have applied to well over a hundred operators, now on round three. I know nobody owes me anything, but finding it hard to remain positive. Paying back over £500 a month for loan for training costs. Self-funded TR or £6000 for FI? Don't make me laugh. How my marriage has survived is beyond me. Eternally grateful to partner. Flight schools "There has never been a better time to train" = We have never needed your business more with rising fuel and EASA costs and the credit crunch. God almighty I feel I have made the worst decision of my life. The next person who says "Don't worry, your time will come" best be standing out of my reach. I'm "really" glad I did PPL, Hourbuilding, CPL and IR in UK, at obscene prices. Airlines could not care less.

jezbowman 22nd Apr 2008 13:28


jezbowman - I commend your well planned, measured approach. It is exactly what I advocate. I cannot think of a better plan or a better way of illustrating the reality of my advice. Thanks.
Au contraire WWW, thank you. :ok:
I just wish a few more would listen to you. :sad:

wangus - is it not early days to regret your decisions? Did you not get your ticket only two months ago? I know little, but I suspect that it could take longer than two months to find a first job in the current market. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

expedite08 22nd Apr 2008 13:49

WWW does make some good points, albeit we dont want to hear it, but it is reality! Good job WWW. I'm going to train slowly throughout this summer, got the ME ma IR left to do. Why rush! Plus I can enjoy some nice summer flying with family and freinds etc! Oh and also have job to keep my head above the parrapet!

bajadj 22nd Apr 2008 17:40

foundation degree = gold plated necklace.

ie. not a degree, not even nearly a degree....worthless.

Adios 22nd Apr 2008 20:57

Saccade,

My tongue was firmly in cheek when I wrote that one doesn't check Notams 18 months in advance. If you think you can predict the industry 30 years in advance, you are in the wrong business. You'd make a killing on Fleet Street. That was precisely my point though, nobody knows what the market will be even in 18 months, as that is the nature of volatile times. By all means, sit on the sidelines given the current conditions, but when you do jump into the game, do it with a game plan that would work even if the economy is the worse possible. If the market is so good that 95% are getting a job in 12 months, why should anyone throw caution to the wind thinking they'll beat the odds?

One checks the Notams to inform their flight plan. It doesn't mean they cancel the flight, sometimes they just alter the route. The trick is to plan for the worse and if it turns out better than you planned fro, count your lucky stars. This applies regardless of the state of the economy.

BerksFlyer 22nd Apr 2008 21:02


foundation degree = gold plated necklace.

ie. not a degree, not even nearly a degree....worthless.
That is correct. I'd be very careful if I were you F/O UFO, you sound like you've been sucked in by the marketing good and proper.

saccade 23rd Apr 2008 09:33

Adios, there is no need to talk down on me. The 30 years figure was not in relation to the state of the economy, but in relation to energy prices. If I hear Boone Pickens and Warren Buffet saying that there is a problem with future oil supply's, I tend to take them serious. Since you seem to be confident about the future of aviation, I was wondering what scenario that will be. Hence my question about supply's and alternative's.

It has really nothing to do anymore with doom saying or conspiracy theories. We can all see how damaging $100+ oil is for the aviation industry, and it is probably only the beginning.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...k&refer=energy

and

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...4eo&refer=home


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