+++ grade for Egnatia
 

Hi

I have emailed Egnatia (George) for about 1.5 month now and they allways answer within 12-24 hours,even within 1 hour sometimes

I have had a very very good dialog with georg and I will probably choose them for my future training

best too you all

Brian from Denmark.

Just out of curiosity, was this Skysiren an instructor from the UK? If so I think I know who it is and I'd take whatever she says with a big pinch of salt.

Yes, she was.

I think you are right an instructor from Ravenair :ok:
I heard that she is now at Hawarden

Hi all,

As I`m making a presentation of a large amount of flight schools over the world, of which Egnatia Aviation ia a part, I would like to ask you if someone could provide me with the following information:

- How many students per year start the ATPL training with Egnatia?
- How many classes does Egnatia start every year?

Thank you very much for your help.

Kind Regards,

Egnatia Aviation
 

Dear r_alekos

For accurate information why don't you get in touch diretly with Egnatia Aviation? [email protected]

any opinions about the ATPL ground school at Egnatia?

The female UK Instructor is no longer working at Hawarden... or Ravenair.

A bit of recent experience from this school for anyone interested:

I got here beginning of sept. for half my hour building, and CPL/ME/IR. Their aircraft are top notch, in very good condition and VERY well maintained. The onsight engineers that are hired by the school know the diamonds and the Aeros like the back of their hand and are always willing to do more work if you find something remotely wrong with the aircraft. I was very surprised by this. Instructors have quite a bit of experience and know the aircraft very well and are really nice guys. As for the school and the professional courses: The school supplies you with aircraft manuals for the aircraft youll be flying and you have to do a written technical test on the aircraft. They also supply you with very good training manuals for each course which analyticaly describe ever single lesson for every flight. The instructors conduct thorough briefings and debriefings before and after each flight which is very good and helpfull. They seem to be very organised and are very friendly with student. Good environment as well.

Having the experience of a good UK modular school where I did my ppl, i can easily say this place is a very good commercial flight school with a good standard of training. I know many bad things have been said about this flight school in the past, but they've cleaned up well. A friend who did the full course at Egnatia last year told me the same things as i am seeing now.. I highly recommend this school, and for those of you worried about reputation, i know from a mate who is involved in recruitment in a UK airline, that the school is building a good reputation in the UK as well.

SVoa

Any new info on CPL/ME/IR training at Egnatia? and school in general?

Thank you

Hello guys,

Well, I really don't understand so many things that I read about this school. This is my first post at this forum, although I don't have any interest on posting this, I have the moral obligation to say a few words about this school.


Just to summarize what I've done before I went to Egnatia, I have completed in Portugal a integrated CPL with aptpl theory credits and with SEP and SE-IR ratings. I'm Portuguese and I'm 31 now.


I finished the CPL in 2009, as the situation was at the time and it still is, with thousands of pilots seeking for a job and also with my finances not very good I just decided to give up. As I'm a nurse I moved to Switzerland where salaries are interesting, but for these 2 years I always had in mind aviation and I just started to think that I couldn't just give up having come this far, at least I had to try and finish all.

So I saved some money, I renewed the ratings and I got a 1month non-paid license from the Swiss hospital I'm working for exclusively for this.


Before I chose the school I sent emails to every flight schools in Europe, until I came across Egnatia Aviation and Dimitris L. (Managing Director). I don't know for sure, but I think I sent him 30 emails or something like that, he was very patient with me I can tell you that. He always answered me very quickly and was always ready to assist in any doubts I could have.

I went there to do a MEP and ME/IR ratings. After being there I decided to do the MCC also. I can't find the exact words to describe them; I just can tell you that they are very very professional.



I paid 5500€ to do the MEP and ME/IR ratings. Very good price but it's even better when I tell you that it includes housing, transports, and final exam and examiner fees. To summarize, you only pay 5500€ for everything. Just tell me where in the world you can find this.

You have the chance to fly modern airplanes. They only have 4 years more or less. Even the Diamond's DA40 are now being replaced for Diamond's 40 NG equipped with Garmin 1000. The instructors are young but very experienced; my instructor has TR and experience on the citation and TR also on the Airbus. Other instructors have also TR on Boeing's, etc. The chief instructor is a former military pilot, a very experience pilot with thousands of hours in fighters like the mirage, etc etc (Respect).


I was anxious and nervous when I started because I only had 5 hours or so of flying in the last 2 years. I was going to a different country, different culture, different instructors, and different airports. Now I can conclude that it all went very well thanks to them. I can only recommend them. If it was now, I would do all my training with them.

Good luck for everyone at Egnatia Aviation. I hope I see you soon Dimitris but not for the revalidation. ;)


T.C.

I am really surprised how bad things are being said about Egnatia Aviation. I have just come back from the school couple days ago. I did my tour, saw accommodation, talked to instructors, students and manager, flown one of their DA40's and I found it very good school for the price they offer. Despite the fact that Egnatia Aviation is based in Greece, the company is very much a European modern enterprise based in Greece due to the good weather, the lower costs and the country's geographic location. The Egnatia Aviation customers are from all over the world, 23 nationalities in the first 2 years. If you want more information you can search on any search engine.

I did my ME/IR and I have ONLY good words to say about them....

Hi guys,

I looked at Egnatia Aviation, but with a bit more research I found Hero Aviation based in Kalamata. Went to visit and was very impressed!!! Got my PPL done and was very happy. You should check them out, they are offering some good deals on all inclusive packages, which I was unable to find anywhere else. I think far too many people are heading state side with the promise of good weather etc, when the truth is you can find all this in Greece and it ends up been much cheaper.

ATPL theory
 

Question to you guys who have been to Egnatia. How are the ATPL theory courses? Are they taught by a native english speaker? Is there any CBT?

The ATPL ground school is done by an ex British Airways pilot actually... His name is David. He started there about a year ago. They use Bristol books and CBT.

hi
 

Hi everyone , i m applying for the IKAROS course at Egnatia , so please be free to share your experience with Egnatia , and any other useful information. thank you.

As I have stated in my post above I did my CPL/ME/IR/MCC at Egantia from Sep-Dec 2010. I also did 60 hours of hour building there. Was a very pleasant surprise. They have experienced instructors, very friendly environment, fantastic accomodation facilities and overall GREAT value for money. I actually regreted not doing my training from the beginning there. If you want any specific details on the flight school, feel free to PM me.

SVoa

well stated guys.now tell us how many of the cadets have been employed and the airlines they work for.

Hi All,

Here are some official Statistics of Egnatia Aviation:

As of 30th September 2011 (operation commenced July 2006)

Commercial Students Graduated: 534
Flying Hours: 38.500
Fleet: 7 Aircraft (2 AT3, 1 DV20 Katana, 2 DA40NG, 2 DA42NG)
Origin of Students: 48 countries
Graduates with Flying Jobs (known): 487
Graduates with Airline Jobs(known): 413
Airlines that recruited EA Students (known): 44

Examples: Aegean Airlines, Olympic Air, Qatar Airways, Emirates, BMI, Wissair, Astra, Easyjet, Ryanair, Royal Air Moroc, Air Arabia, Qatar Emiri Airforce (Boeing C17 Globematser), Sky Express, JetStar, Pegasus Airlines (Turkey) and many more.

Generaly we do not publish the names of the companies that our students are working for as the job is not taken only because of the quality of the training of the Organisation but mostly because of the high quality and high dedication of our students. It's mostly their achievement. We only supplied them with the necessary qualities and skills to get it.

If you need some more extensive info please contact the school. [email protected]

AMS, You can see in my earlier posts that I mention how I conducted my PPL in the UK at a modular FTO and my initial plan was to conduct all my training there. However the standard of training I found to be NOT so good. It took me 4 months to finish my PPL in minimum hours, and took me 3 months to complete 60 hours of hour building, CPL/ME/IR at Egnatia... Do the maths...

The training does not depend on the country in which it is conducted but by the mentality and standard of the FTO.

I can guarantee you of a few things from Egnatia Aviation:

1. The standard of training is very high. This means, IN DEPTH breifings AND debriefings are conducted before and after every flight. Instructors make sure you understand what you did wrong and ALSO what you did well. They constantly ask you theoretical questions during every flight, not so much as a test, but more as a reminder of "if you dont know it, go read on it so you know it in the future". I personally learned alot from my instructors there, in addition to what the ATPL books said.

2. The area is GREAT for flying. Airspace is not restricted at all. Three airports in the immediate vicinity of LGKV offering very nice IR flights without waisting time in the cruising phase of flight. LGTS, LGAL, LGLM and just a bit further you have LGSK which has very interesting approaches.

3. The student to instructor ratio is very good. Your instructor will know you very well after 1-2 flights and they have time to answer questions and even some 1 on 1 talk about any questions you might have outside your "booked" slots. You wont get any of this, your slot is over so leave me alone! The instructors there LOVE their job.

4. You will be very comfortable. Accomodations is not only very nice, but actually way above normal standards you would expect from a flight school.

5. The environment is very friendly and the whole team there will make you feel right at home.

6. When you fly, they mean business.. They are very strict and demand a high standard from all of their students. You will never feel that ANY of your flights are boring or routine. Every flight has a specific purpose which you know in advance because they provide you with manuals which tell you exactly what you will do on each and every flight you fly there, and what is expected of you in every one of those flights.

7. Value for money...

To answer your questions AMS:

Students per instructor - There are times when there are quite a few students.. However the head of training does a good job of spliting them up evenly. At the most busy time I was there my instructor had myself and 4 other students if i remember correctly. However 2 of them were conversion students so they didnt stay too long. You have your instructors complete attention.

ILS Approaches - LGTS is about a 40 minute flight in the DA42, which is where you do the ILS approaches. Its a busy airport so you get radar vectored in which is a nice experience. This airport has two runways, 16/34 and 10/28. 16/34 is used 99% of the time and it has an ILS on runway 16. 34 has a very interesting VOR/DME appraoch. I did 3 ILS's in my IR on the airplane.

Yes you do fly in the airways. On every single IR flight.

I did my training there from september until december 2010.

Some additional information that I found very important at Egnatia. There are no hidden costs what so ever. What they quote is what you pay. Daily expenses (food, drink...) are very cheap, so you wont be using up alot of money. Aircraft are brand new, with all instruments working at all times. Maintenance guys are very kind and professional and wont hesitate to help you out if you need anything, or to answer a question you may have.

Future Employment Opportunities
 

I know that Egnatia is still a relatively young school but I was wondering if in the past 5 years it has managed to make any close relationships with airlines. Im guessing it must be getting better known now in Europe and I would like to know if you guys can help your Atpl students with finding jobs once they are done. Appreciate any feedback I can get on this guys.

Dear Alzandor,

As I mentioned earlier, Generally we do not publish the names of the companies that our students are working for as the job is not taken only because of the quality of the training of the Organisation but mostly because of the high quality and high dedication of our students. It's mostly their achievement. We only supplied them with the necessary qualities and skills to get it.

In addition to the above I would like to mention that aviation is a very small world. Everyone knows everyone. Egnatia is trusted by very important people of various airlines for their own children. For example we are currently training the son of the recruitment manager of a very well known company of the Middle East and the son of the Flight Operations Manager of another very well known European airline. For obvious reasons I cannot mention the names of the companies. However, I will mention again that we do not scream that we offer students job because we do not. I don't know anybody that REALLY does. What we do (and I can safely say that we do it well) is to prepare student with the necessary skills and values to get a job by THEMSELVES.

I am just being honest.

hi everyone ,

im planning to do atpl in house in egnatia , i know that school have some solid feedback about flying part but i never heard about the atpl ground school part , so if someone can give me any feedback about intructors teaching the ground and the quality i will appreciate

tks for help guys

no news guys for the ground school there :rolleyes:

Hi guys some information about instructor for atpl full time, flight instructors, accomodations and life at egnatia? thanks

Plans to start training at Egnatia Aviation.
 

Hello to everyone who read it. :)
As already you can understand i am planing to start training at egnatia. I am planing to take IKAROS package . I have read alot of testimonials about this school and want to say that what they offer for 54.400 Euros + additional 2.250 for MCC that's realy sounds very attractive for me. But one thing what frighten me is licence wich i will get after graduation. As i heard Greece licence isn't very quoted in EU countries.

If anybody can give some advice will be very appreciated.
P.S.
Apologize for my bad english.

You can easily convert it to CAA UK because you live in the UK.

RE
 

Never heard of this school before, but sounds great to me! What about those conversion ? It is that easy to get through for all EU citizens? (I am polish)

Can you recommend some other flight schools from zero to fATPL worth considering in southern part of Europe? Spain ? Italy? Croatia?

If you are a EU citizen no problem, you can go anyhwere in Europe!

hi
 

anyone did any kind of course from this school recently ?

Hey Gornet,

There is a school in Croatia worth mentioning. It's Panonnia Pilot School. relatively new in professional training, but had trained quite a bit of PPLs around here. I was there a year and a half ago finishing off my PPL. Done all the training, but due to ignorant pricks and gob****es in Croatian Civil Aviation Authority didn't do Skill Test.
The school also had a few issues with Cro CAA, so they moved their office to Slovenia and been working under Slo CAA ever since (which is full EASA, unlike Croatia). The whole flight training and everything is done in Croatia (which makes it cheaper), but the license is Slovenian which makes it full JAA/EASA.

HI
 

How much will it cost to get a jaa cpl at this place?
I hold a faa cpl..
And roughly how much time ?

Greece or Spain
 

Hi guys

I've been reading the threads about Egnatia and it all sounds very promising (as I'm considering going there). Does anyone have any current views on how flying in Greece (and Egnatia) compares to somewhere in Spain (like Jerez)?

The reason why I ask is both schools have been recommended to me and I'd like to make an educated decision.

I know both countries are struggling financially - any idea how that could affect the flying schools (i.e. any way to check how they are doing financially). I'm just concerned about losing money if they close while I'm in training.

Thanks :ok:

Euro - out!
 

If you go, watch the exchange rate, as we are all aware, they have now been bailed out twice - maybe next time they might not be so lucky!

Hi Zigandzag

Do you mean Greece or Egnatia was bailed out twice?

Thanks

Bulls...., they just had some issues a few years ago after they bought a sim.

Did my IR/MEP and MCC there and recently they got a heavy contract from the middle east.

I recommend them more than any other school I have seen.

Amazing location, great DA 42NG and Katana , friendly staff and examiners and the rice includes accommodation.

Downside is the mosquitoes that drive you nuts.

Africanstormrider;
I think he meant the country,Greece,as we all know it,are facing the biggest financial crisis in its history and they were pretty much 'bought' by Germany,through a couple of bailouts. Egnatia Aviation isn't struggling financially due to UAE cash injected to it,they just signed a deal with Qatar airways and they are a private company anyway.
The only issue you might have is the HCAA once you pass your skills test,they will take their time to issue the licences but that's not the schools fault,although the admin lady does her best to sort the issue out.
I was very happy with the school,only just finished there and I had points of comparison(my ex school was a joke).I know you'll read a lot of negatives from 2007 but the school changed,the people,the planes,etc. For that price,which by the way there's no hidden extras,I would recommend the school:ok:

More expensive?I'm surprised as when I looked at schools I didn't manage to find any cheaper...don't forget prices are in euros which is falling and has the potential to devalue even further if Greece defaults again.Plus their prices include accommodation,internet,transport to/from school,books,uniforms,etc...you only need money for food,while in UK you would have to add that up,which isn't cheap...!:ok: