Egnatia Aviation things you should know
 

Having first hand knowledge of the Egnatia Experience, I would strongly advice any and all student pilots to avoid this school like the plague. The school has a fleet of 5 DA40's of which only 2 work, also 1 DA42 which suffers an unusual amount of engine failures. The Head of Training is an over zealous control freak and will think nothing of humiliating students for not being able to answer a question, then ground you for a few days to a week. It really just depends on what mood he's in on any particular day. You are often booked for slots without being told and then charged a no show fee when you don't turn up for a lesson you didn't know you had. Also slots are cancelled last minute without you being notified and for what seams to be no good reson. Special treatment is often given to the Greek students and everyone else is pushed to the side and made to wait. None of the students at the school are happy as the environment you are in is very oppressive. You are investing alot of money throughout your training and you need to have a stable encouraging environment in which to study. This is sadly not the case at Egnatia. ATPL ground school is given by students who have only just passed the exams themselves, so your not really getting qualitiy experience and guidence there. Overall is an experience best avoided, be smart and spend your precious time and money elswhere. :ok:

Not very nice reading, that. Best give it a miss then. AOPA's recent magazine had an article in it "Greece - Send us your GA" and went on about Greece becoming the centre for training in Europe (and even poaching the Florida market - given the collapse of the £ v $ the USA is looking less and less favourable). The article hinted at Egnatia being the flagship. Makes the above comments even more interesting.

There is the usual glossy website and brochure, but you certainly don't get what you pay for here. If you read the previous comments it is clear that their problems are historical and they have done nothing to sort them out. My advice is to find a well known school with a fully operational large fleet, experienced and friendly instructors who are more than willing to help you and not humiliate you. It is worth paying a little extra for quality training.:)

Skysiren

Making false accusations about Egnatia Aviation was because you were SACKED !!!!!

To potential students reading this particular topic, our "Skysiren" was a PPL FI.

After having 7 yes 7 students complaining about your training methods why was their a need to keep you on as an instructor, as for ground school, pupils feed back was that they were not getting the maximum information that was expected from your lectures.

We have team building excursions with a variety of activities from canoeing to bbq's and feel that this is a good enviroment to build in-house relations between students and instructors.

As for the Head of Training with over 20 years of experience, as you well know!! He is looking out for the SAFETY and WELFARE of our students here at Egnatia. However, if you feel that this is not the correct procedure then this was not the correct working enviroment for you.
As a PPL FI with very few hours, Egnatia Aviation feels betrayed by the trust and opportunities that were offered to you, so that you could gain more flight experience and a step forward in your career,this form of low character from yourself is a let down only on your behalf.

The excellent standard here at Egnatia Aviation is second to none and we advise all perspective students to contact us direct and come and see the professional facilities that we have to offer.

We look forward to hearing from you.

Here is just great
 

Hello,
I'm a from Italy and following FAA conversion and the ATPL groundschool. I enjoy my time here, with good instructors and nice people that are working here. I have been in many flight schools and now in Egnatia Aviation, this is the best one till now!!! At the moment all the diamonds are flying (singles and twin) also the two AT-3. Every student is treated the same way, no matter where you come from.
It is an easy way to talk **** about the school if you just lost the job because all seven students complained about this instructor. Even the atpl students. Not really professional right??!! :=:=:=
If you want to know how everything is going on here? Come over, and take a look. :ok:

Regards,

Egnatia student

Twins 2

Do your home work, I am not an ex instructor but an ex student, and everything I have written is true and factual. Can you really deny any of it when so many current and ex students feel the same way !!!!

Good luck to the instructor anyway he deserves better.

Firstly a siren is a female so its kind of obvious you didnt choose your name to well, and who said that the instructor was a he i didn't

Again twins 2 do your homework.

Siren (noisemaker)

alerting an entire community of impending danger.

egnatia again, and again, and again.......
 

Once again the Egnatia aviation debate rises again.
It has to be said that this school does seem to get more negative press on PPRUNE than any other JAA school in Europe. Take from that what you will.

And yet again, Egnatia are ready with their response, rather badly thought out and bordering on what can only be described as 'un-professional'. You really should not point fingers at people, remember aviation is meant to be a no blame culture, and is a very small world (as you are experiencing).

Have a little bit more professionalism and don't respond to posts. i dont see many other schools responding like you do, or even responding at all.

give up on the BBQ's and canoeing, your teaching commercial flying, not social skills!! if you have poor instructor student relationships then look at why that is.
Grow up, get a life, and sort out your school.

Good points made by Long final 16. Short and to the point.

wrong approach to a sensitive matter
 

Dear all and especially you SKYSIREN,

First of all i started worrying a lot about this school since the last posts. I said before that i have a very close friend studying there and because i worry and care about his future i contacted him advising to leave the school immediatelly.
Dont know why he ignored me. I dont think the management pay the students to make good comments... especially in a sector where the training is costly and intensive. That is PILOT TRAINING. I dont know the school as i will visit them shortly not about training but for a pleasure flight or a backseat and lets call it a long weekend rest with my friend. What i get though from my friend is that things are working perfectly and no problem exists. That is all i have to say about the school.
Now i see some sort of hate against this FTO and trying to understand why. I truly believe that the current students are right about skysiren. All of them have made it clear that she is the 'SACKED' ex-instructor. I dont want to agree with that as by being a profesional pilot myself i dont see skysiren's attitude as a professional one. It is a shame if it is true. To be honest my information sais that the instructor sacked end of October. Here i see a person joining pprune on the 28th of October and posting directly against this school.
I want to let people have their own conclusions about this person and the school too. If it was an airline sacking a not suitable or dangerous for the role Captain we would have been grateful. Why not now if skysiren is the ex instructor as it looks like it.
I am 100% sure that skysiren is trying to play a game here against others. SKYSIREN your siren only alerts me about the dangerous you and nothing else.
I wont say to anybody to join this school as i DO NOT know it. I do get very good comments from an insider who is spending his fortune to achieve his dream and he is happy about what he gets from them. Once again i would like to urge people to contact the schools directly or even vist them. DO NOT RELY 100% on forums. I wont post on this thread again as the reason i am a pprune member is obviously NOT this school.

Wish you all the best!!! :ok:

Ok CB Lover,

You don't seam to have a very reliable source of information from your so called friend. Why don't you ask the school about the 15 + students that left the school in the past 12 months due to being unhappy. Or the unflyable DA40's sat on the ramp for months. Also all the previous students who have the same factual knowledge as I do regarding the schools problems. Maybe you should know what you're taking about before you post. When you visit your friend you should ask the few remaining students what they really think about the school.

So what if I only joined in October, seams like you getting 7 from 2+2 ???

Last One
 

not ok skysiren.

maths was never my favourite subject but i do get 4 out of 2+2 unless hypoxic.
Look, before you became a pilot you were not a pilot. That is a fact. I dont care about your past. Why should i care about the DA40s who went tech months ago. I do care about the current situation and all the planes fly like they should be. Whats the catch? A ZERO out of 2+2. Every person who has some knowledge about the aviation world knows that THIELERT was facing with some problems. Obviously under those circumstances some planes can be grounded. Imagine if Rolls Royce experiences something like Thielert. Will it be Qanta's lets say fault that all the RB211 powered 747s are grounded? I DONT THINK SO. Do you? As a student or instructor there have you ever refused a plane for technical reasons except normal servicing? That is what people care on this topic. My friend actually is ahead of his schedule flyingwise. Mind you he is not Greek. Be realistic and give us facts not your opinion. My opinion is that egnatia is SUPER. Do you care about my opinion or about my facts and experiences? If you care about my opinon you have already lost the battle, so there is no point continuing this converation. I DO NOT care about your opinion and i expect to read facts from current students in here. Tell us which school we should join and why.... with facts. It looks like you pushing yourself to be negative about them. My last point is a question to you. If they have lost 15+ plus students and there are many more willing to leave why and how are they still operating? Especially with the current worldwide financial problems? Why are they getting a simulator and replacing the SACKED instructor with 3 new ones? Those are facts from an insider but my role as an outsider is not to mention them. I will be checking this thread looking for facts from current students and only.
To be honest i dont like your attitude at all and i warn you to change it or else you will lose in your life as a pilot. Your attitude makes me stop replying to you at this moment. I wish you all the best for your future within a nice huge with a large fleet school or an airliner.

p.s: let the wannabes participate here and not us. we did it. :ok:

CB Lover, you really have been fed a bunch of lies. Ah well you'll soon find out. They're actions speak for them, as many a previous student will agree. Yes people who have actually been to the school. Not you who quite clearly has not. Enjoy wasting your time and money.

Oh and as for the warning, hahahahahhaha you know where you can shove that !!!!

There seems to be a slanging match going on here

Skysiren...... can i ask you a couple of things that you haven't mentioned.
How long were you at Egnatia ? and what course were you on?
were you one of the students that had the inexperienced instructor that everyone is talking about. Was she really that bad?
Did you finish your course on time and can you tell me about your training.

Don't you agree that it was a responsible decision made by Egnatia to sack an instructor who was incompetant and especially unsafe. After all, would you let a dentist or a doctor operate on you if they didn't know what they were doing. The students lives are in the instructors hands.
You metioned in a previous post that Egnatia is oppressive. Do you mean that you were treated harshly and cruelly, or do you mean the weather. It does get hot in Greece.

Looking forward to your response.
MZ

My view:

Greek CAA are one of the worst in customer service and license issue. I have heard of people waiting many months for license issue.

Greek ATC are not as compliant as UK ATC. This will cause you problems once you arrive back in the UK to fly.

PPL exams must all be taken at once. Thats all 7, now that is really bad.

The school has had problems with the JAR groundschool. Students have had to study themselves through distance learning even though they have paid for a residential course.

Even if all of these issues have been resolved which I seriously doubt , would you really want to pay a FTO who have no idea how to resolve basic operational issues?

It's your hard earned money, for a few extra hundred I would advise to train within the UK at a local school. You will atleast experience the least operational standards which Egnatia cannot provide.

G-XO

My view:

I have had nothing to do with Egnatia Aviation but I have had experience dealing with Greek ATC. To say they are not compliant compared to UK is not true. Have you ever flown in Greece? I would say they are overly cautious and not confident when there's a lot of traffic, Ive been made to orbit for 5 minutes, whilst on downwind when an aircraft conducting a VOR approach was on his outbound leg 8 Miles out!

Theres also is the small fact that you have to file flight plans even to do touch and go's- oh and the General declaration from the airport authority, just to do circuits!!

Beautiful country to fly around though, great food, nice looking women- Would highly recommend it. Just choose your school WISELY.

Also to the previous argumentative posts- Dont air your dirty laundry in public!!! Looks really bad to potential students- I was a propective student, but after looking at those kind of comments and general bickering := I chose to FAS Rhodes instead.

Thanks

I'm an ex student of egnatia,i've completed there just a conversion last summer and this is my experience:

Great brand new planes
I did the course with the minimum flight time required
Most important they have excellent standard and they demand high level of commitment from their students.

I saw the discussion in the previous post about the chief pilot..
Well honestly he doesn't make you feel so good during the flight but it's just because he wants to show him the best you can and your skills.
I don't see anything wrong,that's the way to push the students.

Sometimes can happen that the planes goes tech,it's normal,in every schools happen!
In my case they provided to me another one straight after to complete my course;

At the end i'm happy that i chose egnatia.

Hello again.

Skysiren,

You haven't answered my questions and it's been 7 days. You have been so fast with your responses to the other posts, why not mine?

Potential pilots are ready to make informed decisions based on comments from students who have experienced good and bad flight schools.

Please reply to my previous questions. I'm sure that many people are waiting.

MYZ

stupity yet again
 

maxine z,

I can only assume you are not the marketing manager of Egnatia Aviation, since you have dragged this post up again, just when it had dropped off the bottom of the page! perhaps not a smart move.

Professionalism is very important in aviation, and since you work for the school you should perhaps show some.

I think it is fair to say that you antagonising people into responding (whether good or bad) may not help students make informed decisions. Indeed it just makes you and the school look rather pathetic.

I have taken the time to read the other threads today, which many other 'potential' students will also do. They do not paint a very good picture of the school, and the only positive responses seem rather fake, in my opinion. Indeed the director DL seems to get the most criticism, second only to the CFI. They both sound like real nice people!!! You do seem to have a core support of bad press, again from the same individuals who may (or may not be) be agreeved students or instructors.

Take some advice and drop the 'how dare you' approach. Business is business, some people get on, some dont.

you are only burning your bridges posting on here.
have a nice day.

:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::=:=:=:=:=:=:=

too easy!
 

hey guys...let's just forget about that Egnatia thing...

WHY??

Because simply we have 2 contradicting opinions...and considering the huge amount of money that a trainee wanna pay to be a future pilot, then IT IS EXTREMELY RISKY CHOICE to go for that Egnatia offer...

You'll never know...may be it's gonna be you who receive the bad treatment we heard about...or may be good treatment even...wanna find out?? ok..go to the famous Witch living next door to Egnatia and ask her about your future with them!!!:}:}:}

should you take the risk?? I don't think you really should!

cheers

I 've a friend who is at the school right now. He's been sat around waiting due to lack of planes and bad organization. He said he hasn't received anything like good service and regrets going there.

What a waste of time that was. The place is like a ghost town, no new students in the past 6 months.
Customer service, none existant. Did not feel welcome there at all, more like I was causing them a problem by wanting to ask questions.

Only 2 DA40's and 1 DA42 for the whole school !!! (which was broken again, so I was told by some students)

Won't be spending my hard earned cash there.

Although feedback on the school seems really harsh I'm considering them for a MEIR conversion. I would like to hear from anyone who might have done their conversion training at Egnatia.

Thanks! :ok:

Capt. Spock

Don't waist your time or money. It may look good on paper, but it's not worth the risk.

The one and only twin they have breaks down ALOT.

PM me for more info.

Hi, I did CPL ME IR conversion in December last year, one week flight training, then the skill test, thats it, 23h total flying time, pretty quick and straightforward! Cheers

Its really funny how people think that the flying schools who market themselves alot are the best ones. You lot saying how crap Egnatia is should really go back and look at your "oxfords"... Go there and pay your life off and sell a kidney while your there to get through pilot training. MANY flight schools all over the world have something called airplanes, and airplanes have complex machines that go tech sometimes, and sometimes more often (just how the big sophisticated airlines do). :ugh: What is wrong with some of you people? Do you not have anything better to do than sit here slagging off a flight school????:confused: Jesus!

oh my god...are you professional pilots...or cookers....i think there are many members , better many managers xaxa of egnatia and other schools here not posting but fighting!!oyaoy!!!the costs in egnatia is the minimum of world..then the service is very friendly n kindy...the airservice the best in greece n i think better than others academies of world as 4 students from there told me.BUT the ground school is not the best,,,,it needs to become better...but i think whenever you go without home study :ugh:!!!!the instructors are very strict as it needs (they are professionals most of them are not greek anyway!!).Which flight academy can promise job after finishing???they promise at starting thats the marketing!!!Only if you are good you ll find job!!Do you think that the name of the academy finds to you a job???:eek:... some links are here...this post opened when this academy was in start!!2006 but we are 2009:hmm: Egnatia Aviation Home Page I thoght that the greek pilots were the best of world...arent they..??(the greek airforce :8)They started making academies to get into the civil aviation...trust them!! a new sim at the egnatia ALX: FNPT II MCC Flight Training Device (FTD) for MPL phase 3 - Alsim - Flight Trainers

""the costs in egnatia is the minimum of world..then the service is very friendly n kindy...the airservice the best in greece n i think better than others academies of world as 4 students from there told me ""


To Airmanik

Well if those 4 students have been to every school in the world then, we can't possibly argue with that !!

Sounds like you are an employee ???

Or may be I'm just a cooker ??

:)thank you but i m economist.I have finished the univercity of greece n the next step is to become a pilot!

hi....after the academy did you find job??What are you doing now?

i went there,,,,, one twin that does break as all aircraft do yes, so would be nice if thee was a back up plan in case of a lenghtly tech problem,,,, the airlines do go tech yes,,, i went tech a week ago,,, within 35mins we were in a new aircraft fueled and boarded ready to roll again!

o yea,,, there was only one pilot flying the twin,,, nice guy but seemed to be bored to tears and lost the will to live in there let alone teach, did the job but only cos he was there not cos he wanted to was my impression.

only flew once a day and not on weekends cos the one guy needed time off and had other students, so with a tech day flew 3 out of 7days 1st week and 4 out of 7 days 2nd week.

atc liked to talk greek and give local points for nav,, all good if you know them but there not charted so you have to ask for help from the instructor, ok it works but does not help you feel in command.

school had crap wifi when i was there and i hear now thats gone alltogether, so what do you do all day except look out the window? i was converting so not much study to do.

apartments had no A/C and no WIFI! they were clean enough and basic to live in,,,,, but come on,, WIFI is a must these days.

ground school students were treated like kids! some of them were to be fair, but no drinks in the classrooms,,, no instructor half the time i heard and so self study on a full time ATPL course!!!!!!!

free transfers once a day to and from the apartments,,, great deal,, but not if your doing one flight,,, your then expected to sit all day doing nothing with no entertainment or pay for a taxi back to apartment with again no entertainment or wifi

once you get your license you have to call and call and call to get it issued,,, if something comes back to the school wrong from the greek CAA they wont call you and tell you, it will sit in a folder until you call them and ask why the delay,,, then you submit the new info and wait again and again,,,,,,,, took just over 3months to get my license issued after the checkride!.

and blah blah blah there are other things but i am bored of writeing now.

to be fair all flight schoold are crap and money whores,,, these guys you may get it done, it might be cheaper,, your in the sun,,,, but for more than a conversion,,, i would look elsewhere as you may just decide sod it and fly the aircraft into the tower in frustration!

A reply from the school
 

G-STAR – You are just spreading bull**** with no substance and with obvious intentions. ‘Only 2 DA40's and 1 DA42 for the whole school !!! (which was broken again, so I was told by some students)’ What a lie! You were told by some students? Rubish.

Yes there is only one Twin at present (there two others as backup options) which flies over 100 hours every month for training – pretty good for an aircraft that ‘is broken all the time’.

I think I remember your style of writing with a different nick.

Zerotohero – you said that you did a conversion at Egnatia and you made some comments. In the same order:

- Only one pilot flying the twin. That is strange as there always no less than 3 full time ME/CPL/IR instructors. Currently Yiannos, Stelios, Reizis, and if required Dimitris and the HoT. Total 5 available. You only saw one? Which one? And he was bored to tears? They all fly 80 or more hours a month in total with free weekends and they are bored to tears? Based on increasing number of the CVs we receive every week I am sure most instructors around Europe would like to have this kind of bordom.

- You only flew once a day. Some days yes. Did you finish your training on time? That is what matters. Flight scheduling is done with all students in mind.

- ATCs like to speak their own language all over the world. The ATC in Kavala Airport only speak Greek to Olympic Airways pilots (and maybe one or two of the Aegean pilots) and only when the pilots initiate the call. They always speak English to the Egnatia students with very very few exceptions when they request specific field or weather information in the training areas etc. They are a lot better than most non English speaking countries that I have flown such as France and Italy.

- Wifi – the students have their own ADSL connection at the school, which is ALWAYS on. How the students use it is up to them. Some download or streaming movies some do other things. I can not see why the school should spend any time regulating a not essential for the training service that it is offered for free – we should get a thank you. Reagrding the apartments, all have wifi on the same basis and no air conditioning (they all have central heating). All the apartments are new and basically equipped and the accommodation is free. If students want more, there are hotels available. Staying in the school’s accommodation is neither mandatory nor part of your aviation training.

- Yes, no food or drink is allowed in the classrooms. In addition the course is based on Bristol’s guiding CBT system which is a mixture of instructor and self study. It is a modern and very successful combination as the average pass rate and first pass stats show.

- There are at least two free transfers a day (three most days). It is impossible for us to have a car and driver ready for whenever each student decided to go home! Get real people. Again we do have to provide this service at all – most students appreciate it, do not criticise it.

- The license issue – do you know many schools that will undertake the issuing of your license? In ALL cases I know it is up to the student to do whatever is necessary for the license issue. Again another added service that most people appreciate but some would prefer a prefect service tailored to their own liking. By they way, licenses for conversions always take a bit longer due to the fact that the CAA needs to check ICAO documents from many countries and sometimes has to request copies records, ratings etc in order to include in the JAA license. There not always straightforward. Sometimes they can be waiting for the students to return their previous original licences etc.

Again zerotohero. Did we deliver what we said, in the agreed timescales and for the price we quoted? Was your training good? Was the aircraft new and modern? Were you treated properly?

The school is going from strength to strength at the time most other schools are shrinking or going bankrupt. It now has 8 new aircraft and a brand new Alsim ALX simulator. It will soon offer MCC, JOC and other courses, plus an integrated 0-ATPL course with type rating and airline line training.

The reasons are obvious.:ok:

again and again...all the time speaking people dont know anything about school...you dont help all the time you are confusing the people to their choice!!oh my god!who cares about the internet and videos at home you can pay 20euro per month to vod..ne or cosm..te or another company of mobile telephony in case having internet!!you are going to a school only to learn flying you have to be assembled to the study...i think better ll be all the time flying when you become an airliner pilot you may have the chance finding to f...k as you told...oh my god i wonder which are the criteria of choice of an academy at your opinion...the inernet and if there are are women to....f.....k there...oh my god!!!crazy!!

Hi There,
I have been reading over these posts about Egnatia and i really feel the negative posts are unjustified, but then people in this worl always look for somebody else to blame when things do not go well for them.
I was a student at Egnatia i did my PPL Hr build and ATPL theory there and i have done the rest of my training else where and i have seen what it is like out there, i did not see how good i had it at Egnatia untill i seen other places.
Egnatia is an excellent school and if your will to put in the work to achieve your goals 100% the staff in Egnatia will give you back 150% and bend over back wards to help you out.
When i was there i struggled at some theory, and i really felt like giving up. If it were not for the staff, the Directors, the head of training GG and the instructors who gave me their time at no extra cost i would not be were i am now.
In egnatia they have a great fleet of modern planes, excellent accomodation, students are looked after really well there, which you will not see in any other FTO.
In Greece you have great weather all year round, you can fly to beautifull islands it is a wonderfull experience. Your flight training is consistant because of this you do not sit on the ground waiting for the weather, which in my view is very important for a new student to keep consistant in there training.
When i was in Greece i learnt a lot, and not just flying but also my attitude towards flying which is something money can not buy.
The head of training is a wonderfull instructor with a lot of experience, and what he wants from his students is for them to try there best, he has an interest and cares about all his students, some people may not agree with his methods, but i think that is because they can not see what he is trying to do, which is the students best interest.
If i made a mistake about Egnatia, that would be not finishing my training there, i did not leave because i was unhappy but because after my ATPL, my employer was sponsoring the rest of my training and i had to go were i was told.
If any one is considering a flight school i would recomend Egnatia and besides the training can be done modular, so you can go do your PPL and see for yourself.
Thank you

Hi i just came back yesterday from my conversion!
I had the best experience ever!!!!
When i was busy with my training 4 more students were busy with the Multi engine......i expected a slightly delay but in 9 flying days (skill test included) i finished my conversion!
The first part (5 hours) i used the FNPT ALX a really nice simulator wich can help you a lot if u are not fresh anymore....
After that i start with G-EGNA a really super DA42 with 2 GREAT instructors REIZIS and YANNOS!!!
They were really good teachers and i had a lot of expirience with them.....plus they are really good friend in the weekend's nights :)

I expected a really Greek slow system for paperworks but look like that in less than 1 month i will get my licences ready!

The Head of training is one of the most professional guy ever......he is allways honest!! If you are not good enough he will tell you........he doesent care if school will lose money (and the school as well) if you are not good enough and you wont accept some extra training to reach the standards you are free to leave!
I had the same treatment.. i payed around 9000 euro for the full conversion....they tested me in the sim for the IFR part.....i flow my hours in the DA42 and i spend exacly what i expected....no one EURO MOREEEEE

So i really cannot understend (actually i know) why people just talk talk talk SHI*.... about EGNATIA....

There is a stupid guy inside that just like talk SHI*... and the funny thing that is a student as well.....so why a student inside talk SHI* about his flight school without leaving it????????

Because he know that he will have a really good training.......but i think is not good enough to have it! 100% sure

If you guys contact student inside (Dutchs, Cipriots, Italians, Greeks except the Irish guy) u will have the same info that i wrote here!!!

SO PEOPLE dont pay soooooooo much attention to PPRUNE.....go there.....take a look of the flight school.......try to fly Diamond.....check the simulator.........and u will see!

I went there and i never regret 1 day........actually i miss them allready and is been just 1 day i left!

Dear Piedro/rocco

We all would like to thank you about the positive comments you made about us.
Me and on behalf of the rest of the Egnatia Instructors we would like to wish the best with your future and career!!! I hope one day you will be able to fly your beloved MD83 but if not the 777 is still ok!!
Take care matey and keep in touch:ok:!

Vangelis

Ahahaha Rocco Vangelis!!!
whats up??? is only 2 days i left and i allready miss Keramoti so much!!!!
U guys did a great job and is time that somebody start to open the eyes to this pprune addicted!!!!
The time there was not so easy because of the stupid ATPL but the enviroment was perfect so the hard job of the ATPL was less harder....and is only because of ur guys help!
I miss being around the school.......but really soon ill come back for a short vacation ahahahah im allready looking for tickets.....hope to come back as ID90 :P
but for a job something will start around September if we are lucky.....and unfortunatly will not be MD83 but CRJ900 or A320.....i knowwwwww dont complain ahahah is still a job of course we all love 777 (real plane) but job is a job......

By the time im thinking to come back before everything starts for the MCC i have to check it out...

Take care buddy and keep doing ur great job for the pour ATPL guys.....!!!

say hi to EVERYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!!
ciao man

This school does not respond to any emails, phone calls or PM on PPRUNE:ugh: a total waste of time i dont even think anyone works there?????

Hi Vangelis

Im over in August to visit, I expect a beer!!
Looking forward to seeing you all soon

Im sure the school will respond soon to the above post, Call and ask for Dimitris or George, they'll be very apologetic that they have missed you.

Dave