That's exactly what I was looking for, check your PM. Thanks everyone for all the other information.

Are these the best morse tutors?
 

Hi all,

I'm interested in obtaining a good morse program for helping with idents (I'm starting the instrument rating in the new year).
Before anyone mentions it, I've spent quite some time looking at related postings using the "search" facility.

Basically, I've come up with two programs-
"Morse Cracker" from Transair and
"PilotMorse" from Dauntless software (whose Demo I have and find to be excellent!)

I've come across many many other programs but I'd like to point out that I'm only interested in becoming proficient in 'aviation morse' at this time!
Hence my query:

Which of the aforementioned programs have you found to be the best regarding aviation morse tution? (Or indeed if you feel other program(s) warrant mention, do let me know also.)

Thanks in advance,

regards

Emerald Flyer.

PS- The phrase "Elephants In Straw Hats Ten miles Out" I already know; great tip that! :)

Morse Cracker is a good program.

It's like these top 3 sites

How do they do it?

The cheap, cheerful and totally effective method is to download the RANT demo and simply do the morse excersise over and over until you remember them. Takes about an hour and half with 15 mins to half and hour a day for then next few days to ensure it is burnt it in.

Learning Morse Code
 

Hi

Just curious if there is a good list of word associations for learning morse. One example I was given was kang-a-roo for K i.e. dah dit dah. Just struggling a little with the old fashioned way!

"Elephants In Straw Hats Ten Miles Off"...covers all the dits and dahs

"Ben loves French Virgins".......covers another type of pattern.

"Jerk your Quim"......covers the opposite of above!

"NDB" covers those ones in order.

"Call the Firemen" = F
I, D and B can be remembered easily by visualising the dots and dashes as making up the shape of the letter.

But remember that you don't actually need to learn morse code!

FFF
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-. --- -.-- --- ..- -.. --- -. -

is it not useful though to make sure your listening to the right VOR / NDB etc.* eish tmo etc. Look at learning the groups that are almost the same rather than alphabetically.

* im not qualified yet so i am probably wrong.

FFF

It's not a requirement for the exams, but some airlines require it at 6 wpm to keep your job.

Many amateur radio people start off by listening to streams of Morse and picking out single letters, such as E, then adding to the vocabulary. It doesn't take long to get up to 20 wpm.

Phil

Have never heard of that, Paco - do you have any references?

Thirtysomething - it is not necessary to learn morse to identify navaids, because the morse ident is on all the approach plates, etc. If you are using a chart which doesn't have morse on it and you plan on using a navaid, simply look up the morse before your flight and make a note of it on your kneeboard.

Having said that, knowing morse is definitely a benefit. But I don't want people to read this thread and think they have to run off and learn morse, because they don't.

FFF
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My method.
 

Did this for about 3-4 days.

Learn the first 4 and after that add another 4 etc.

NDB -. -.. -...
AWJ .- .-- .---


You should try grouping the morse codes as above. I use this as a fallback in case I can't remember what the letter J was. I think in my head [a] was dot dahh and then w was dot dah dah so J must be dot dah dah.

For other letters I use the reverse/opposite method. If X is -..- then P is .--.
IF A is dot dah then N is dah dot.

After some time I started to make it a bit more FUN by insulting my mates in morse on paper. I'd write down what bunch of 'unts they are etc.
This doesn't mean I didn't have to listen to morse on tape though. I had to practice on RANT to see if I could remember each letter. The though bit was actually when I heard 4 letters in one go that I couldn't keep up. After a bit of practice I managed.

--. --- --- -.. .-.. ..- -.-. -.- -- .- - .

FFF - it was certainly a requirement for Air Canada when I was over there

Phil

Morse Code
 

Morse code cracks me up, but found this great little website that translates and plays morse code for you - a great practical way to learn, and more importantly free - use the java translator. Hope this is if help to someone!

http://morsecode.scphillips.com/

Cheers


Spacey

Morse code it's a joke...
We do not learn that during theory of atpl, at least in France, i do not know if you learn it in UK.

We don't learn Morse Code here in the UK either. Although if you knew morse code, it would make the identification of navaids so much quicker.

asuweb is right, as far as i know (1/3 through atpl groundschool) we dont learn it in the UK, but if you take an interest it can make identifying navaids a lot easier, and give you more room to concentrate on flying, which has to be a bonus.

But I do agree with you sam, with all the technology these days, it would be a lot handier to have navaids transmitting their identification using the phonetic alphabet!

A modern aeroplane identifies the navaids for you, and displays the identification on the ND. However, a knowledge of Morse is useful for when all that technology goes 'phut'. Which it does, from time to time.

Scroggs

Morse Code Translator
 

Just found this handy learning tool.

Not really designed to be a study aid but quite useful.

http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html

Not had a chance to read through the multitude of pages, but when I learnt morse I found it useful to break the alphabet down into groups of logical sequence.

For example

T -
M --
O ---

E .
I ..
S ...
H ....

A ._
U.._
V..._

A good aviation one!

N -.
D -..
B -...

then some of the others make pairs, for example

W .--
G --.

Q --.-
Y -.--

L .-..
F..-.

J .---

K -.-
R .-.

P .--.
X -..-

then there are tho odd ones

C -.-.

and

Z --..

Just found breaking it down like that helped to make it manageable! The only way to get good at recieveing it is to listen to it time and time again. I learnt it 10 years ago and have hardly used it since, and yet I can still read quite happily at 12 WPM if necessary, truly a skill for life!