Type Rating Costs (US FAA)
Whoops I posted this in the wrong forum, should have been here. Anyway hope it is of some help and/or interest:
Hi fellow ppruners. Was just clearing out some old files from the PC and came across this interesting information regarding Biz Jets type ratings (however they are in $ and no doubt reflect the US FAA system). But hey you never know it might prove useful one or another. Aeroservice Aviation Training Center 3814 Curtis Parkway Virginia Gardens, FL B737 Type Rating $6,995 B737 Previous Experience $5,475 B727 Type Rating $7,995 B727 Previous Experience $5,995 B747 Type Rating $8,450 Alteon Training LLC 1301 SW 16th Street Renton. WA 737 Classic Type Rating $9,995 737 Next Generation Pilot Type Rating $22,095 747-400 Type Rating $16,730 757 Type Rating $18,306 767-200/300 Type Rating $20,026 777 Type Rating $17,570 CAE SimuFlite 2929 West Airfield Drive PO Box 619119 DFW Airport, TX 800-527-2463Gulfstream GII/III Recurrent Training $13,500 Citation Ultra/Bravo $15,200 Gulfstream GIV Type Rating $26,200 Citation Jet Initial Type Rating $13,000 Citation II / Bravo / Excel / Citation Jet / Citation III/VII $15,200 Lear Jet 35 & 55 Initial Type Rating $13,500 Hawker 700 Initial Type Rating $17,500 Hawker 800 Initial Type Rating $21,500 Lear Jet 31A $15,200 Lear Jet 60 $19,600 Challenger 601 Type Rating $21,840 Chrysler Aviation, Inc. 7120 Havenhurst Avenue Suite 309 Van Nuys, CA Citation Type Rating $8,200 Crew Pilot Training, Inc. PO Box 6692 Kingwood, TX B737 Program $7,300 Flight Crew Systems, Inc. 2056 Palomar Airport Road Carlsbad, CA Citation Type Rating ATP - Initial $5,500 Citation Type Rating ATP - Expanded $8,250 Citation Type Rating ATP - 141 $11,700 Flight Safety International 1071 East Aero Park Blvd. Tucson, AZ Lear Jet 31/31A Pilot $12,400 Lear Jet 35 Initial $13,000 Flight Safety International 4330 Donald Douglas Drive Long Beach, CA Gulfstream - II Initial $26,800 Gulfstream - III Initial $26,800 Gulfstream - III Pilot Recurrent $15,500 Gulfstream - IV Initial $35,200 Citation II Initial $14,700 Citation V Initial $17,400 Flight Safety International 11600 West Airport Service Road Swanton, OH Citation V Ultra Pilot Initial $20,100 Citation 650 Initial $20,400 King Air 200 Pilot Initial $14,900 Flight Safety International Two Learjet Way Wichita, KS Lear Jet 30 Series Pilot Initial $17,750 Lear Jet 30 Recurrent $10,850 Flight Safety International P. O. Box 613169 DFW Airport, TX Falcon 2000 Initial $29,800 Falcon 900EX $37,000 Falcon 50 $27,300 Flight Safety International Wichita Cessna Learning Center 1851 Airport Road Wichita, KS Citation Jet 2 Initial Pilot Training $17,400 Flight Safety CE560XL Type Rating $8,350 Flight Safety International Raytheon Learning Center 9720 East Central Avenue Wichita, KS Beech 400/Diamond Training $14,500 Beech Jet 400A Pilot Training $20,10050 King Air 300/350 Initial $17,50038 Flight Safety International 1010 Toffie Terrace Atlanta, GA Learjet 60 $23,200 Flight Safety International (Boeing) Verizon Place 2201 West Airfield Drive Dallas, TX MD-82 Type Rating $7,000 B727 Type Rating $7,000 B737-200 Type Rating $7,000 Flight Safety International Boeing 4900 East Conant Street Long Beach, CA MD-87/88 Type Rating $10,500 B737-200 Type Rating $7,000 MD-82 Type Rating $7,000 Higher Power Aviation 878 Greenview Drive Grand Prairie, TX Boeing 737 Type Rating $7,380 Boeing 737-200/800 $10,000 DC9/MD80 $9,900 Pacific Airline Systems 2056 Palomar Airport Road Carlsbad, CA CE 525/CE 500 Type Rating $5,500 Pan Am Aviation 5000 N.W. 36th Street Miami, FL B737-200 Type Rating $7,495 B737-200 Recurrency $3,975 B737-300 Initial $10,495 B737-300 Reduced $7,495 B747-400 PIC Initial $13,900 B747-200 Initial $8,450 B757 PIC Reduced (Applicants must have 500 hours minimum logged in 757 aircraft and be current last 12 months) $7,950 B757 Initial $13,200 B757/767 Recurrent (PIC) $3,500 B767 Initial $13,200 B767 PIC Reduced (Applicants must have 500 hours minimum logged in 757 aircraft and be current last 12 months) $7,950 A320 Type Rating $13,200 MD-80 Recurrency $3,975 DC 9 PIC Reduced $7,495 Pan Am International Flight Academy 2600 Lone Oak Point Eagan, MN 737 - 200 Type Rating $7,495 A320 Type Rating $13,200 B747 - 400 PIC Initial $13,900 B767 PIC Reduced (Applicants must have 250 hours minimum hogged in 767 aircraft and be current last 12 months) $7,95056 hours B757 PIC Reduced (Applicants must have 250 hours minimum hogged in 767 aircraft and be current last 12 months) $7,950 B747 - 200 Initial $8,450 B757 Initial $13,200 B767 Initial $13,200 SimCom International Inc 6989 Lee Vista Boulevard Orlando, FL Lear Jet 20,35,36 PIC Initial $11,040 2003 Citation I, II, 511, V Bravo PIC Initial $11,040 Hawker 125-800XP, 800+700 PIC Initial $11,040 Lear Jet 31,55 PIC Initial $11,040 Cessna 421 Initial Training $4,500 I hope that helps ..... :ok: |
TR's
It surely will. Thanks a lot dude.
But how useful can a TR be without experience on type? Fat Clemenza |
Well my friend the type rating is at least a start or information as a minimum.
Good luck and hope it turns out okay for you. |
Embraer
I saw you were looking for TR prices on the ERJ's
Did you manage to find those prices? especially for the EMB 170/190? FC |
Fat Clemenza: I am currently researching both the Embraer 145 and Boeing 737 paths. I have family that are aircrew where I might be able to build up some turboprop time and then commence one of the above type ratings possibly with some experience 'sourced' for me too. However I want to eventually end up at the Business jet end of things. In an ideal world I would just go the Embraer path with 8-10 months flying too but what if I don't get into the corporates with this level experience then I'd probably wish I had a generic 737 type to fall back. The only way along the 737 path is to also get time but then the line time is something I'd be forced to buy myself (no family connections there unfortunately) which makes things expensive.
Thus the quagmire of indecision I'm currently in :) |
Embraer
I got the price!
Flight Safety, St Louis T R EMB 170/190 $32000 !!!! Which I think is huge! WHy? Because it's FAA only. My license is FAA so I don't think I'd need flying in the real airplane but what about my JAA fellow pilots who would need to fly it? |
Most of these schools do not issue M1-F1 visa for type ratings done in the USA.
the TSA requires an M1 visa before attending a type rating. You can been turn down with a B2 visa (tourist).The tourist visa is NOT accepted for initial type rating. WARNING:Some schools will give you an INS form telling you need a B2 visa. This form is NOT valid... contact the TSA for VISA issues. ----- Visa information This section applies to aliens who are planning on receiving flight training in the United States. The requirements for obtaining any visa are separate from the requirements of the TSA alien flight training rule. According to INS regulations, Title 8 of the Code of Federal Regulations, Section 214.2(b)(7), any alien who is permitted to enter the United States on a B-1 or B-2 visitor's status visa is prohibited from enrolling in a course of study. Such an alien must an either obtain an F-1 or M-1 non-immigrant visa from a consular officer abroad and seek readmission to the United States, or apply for and obtain a change of status under section 248 of the Act and 8 CFR Part 248. The alien may not enroll in the course of study until the Service has admitted the alien as an F-1 or M-1 nonimmigrant or has approved the alien's application. Taking flight training without an appropriate visa could be a violation of your immigration status and could result in your arrest and removal from the United States; therefore, it is important that you have a visa that permits you to take flight training in the United States. If you do not possess the correct visa, or if you have questions pertaining to your visa status or the appropriate visas for flight training, please contact your local Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services at 800/375-5283 or www.uscis.gov or the State Department Consular Affairs Office for assistance. The AFSP will deny flight training requests from candidates who are present in the United States illegally or who do not have an appropriate visa for flight training. Fees paid for denied applications are not refundable. |
Citation TR in europe.
Hey Guys.
Does any of You know what the cost would be for a Citation TR incl. MCC in JAR-land? I heart something about Flight Safety in Paris but I was´nt lucky! Regards nebrot... |
Great information..
Thanks Boogie!! :D Great information!!!
Good luck.. :ok: |
Another point of interest is the relative price of these type rating compared to our somewhat excessive JAA equivalents.
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PANAM 737 Type Rating and TSA issue.
:ok: Hi, guys.
I am working as CFI, CFII and MEI in California, U.S.A. Actually, I am foreigner, I tried to get job but it is almost impossible. So, I am approaching another direction to be an airliner. 1st. PANAM, FL. I have visited over there during my long cross country. (50 hours from coast to coast) If you are qulified ATP (1,500 TT, other requirements and ATP written) you are qulified "acclerate course" - $7,000. (14days and including housing) If you are under 1,500 TT you need to go 25days course - $10,500. Regarding TSA, you do not worry about that. I am working CFI, recentely (2weeks ago) All of my students approved TSA procedure, all of them came U.S with B1/2 VISA. The problem is TSA want to you submit Pilot Certificates, and Passport. Pilot Certificate and Passport are mandatory, but VISA is not. Which means you do not need submit VISA information. As you know some of countries like as Japan, U.K are waived VISA program. So, TSA does not require VISA information. If you want to submit VISA information, yes you can. Then you can not proceed it. Any question [email protected]. Also, I am looking 737 sim partner. Hope to help.:ok: |
I have been turned down by the TSA with a b2 visa.
they want a M1 visa, and I have lost my money!!!:{ |
Pan Am told me that I don't need a student visa. They even sent me a letter where they stated that I only need a B2 visa (or waiver).
I was skeptical about the letter and since I still keep in touch with the school where I was years ago, I asked them their opinion on the matter. They have TSA reps, they told me that a visa is mandatory and they encouraged me to get one. Also, according to what I have read here on pprune, the TSA seems now to be requiring a visa number before issuing a clearance. So I would like to add SimCenter to the list (seen on Training in the USA - Visa Requirements) It's the only one I've found that issues visas. I don't know how much they charge for the ratings but I have a gut feeling that they are not among the cheapest. Another option would be to get a visa for something else and then get TSA clearance. Is this feasable? Dartagnan, how much money did you loose ? Hopefully no more than the downpayment. The way it usually goes is the following: You make a downpayment (around $1,500) and they send you home the training material. The wise thing to do is to get the TRTO accept your TSA request (see TSA process) before making ANY downpayment and then, when you get the clearance, pay and get the training stuff. According to what my old school says though, you are still at risk if caught training in the US by the Immigration Service without a proper visa. |
10460 US dollars for the A320 TR at Simcenter...
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Convertion of JAR FCL ATP with A320 rating
;) ...Any ideas how can I convert my JAA ATPL with A320 Type rating into an FAA ATP with A320 Endorsement.
Pls email me if possible. Thanks |
According to what my old school says though, you are still at risk if caught training in the US by the Immigration Service without a proper visa.
....and you take the risk to be baned for 10 years even after your training.The immigration keep a file on you (I-94)and you can be denied entrance in the States. ant1, I have lost: 130$ application fee with TSA, non refundable 230$ finger prints 200$ flight ticket to USA(by chance the travel agency has refunded me 70%) 500$ travel for fingerprint 1000$ books and online course to study at home. total: over 2000$ and a lot of deception:{ . the TRTO told me to go with a B1/B2 visa. I have applied with the TSA, and 30 days later, after paying everything with my credit card, they told me I was ineligible.:yuk: They(TSA) asked me to apply for an M1 visa on the sevis website, but I did not find any visa for this course.:ugh: The school has tried to help me,but a few months later they told me they were sorry! and it was over for me... I got an email from the TSA help department, and they explained me I was denied for improper visa, and the only visa accepted was M1 or F1. I will send a complaint to the Department of Homeland Security in Washington and I suggest you to do the same and ask for clarification. you have probably received a form from your US school that says a B1/B2 visa is accepted. This form is not valid anymore or has never been valid, and if you apply, you are right , you are at risk to be deported (and be baned from the USA for 10 years)even if you have the clearance from the TSA. With a tourist visa, you can only say to the Custom Officer you come for tourism...if they discover you lie they will send you back home, or they can ban you if you decide to make appeal and you lose your case. Believe me, I had an inspection A recently, and they have asked me thousand of questions for 25 minutes and even called a friend in the USA to see if I was lying or not.!(I was in the USA for vacation, but they thought I came to work illegaly) I am not the only one who have been denied training...and I wont reapply again.(the TSA seems to deny who they want and you can not even defend yourself, even if they did a mistake... (they have the same system in N.Korea). "This application was denied due to the fact you have a B1 Visa and are attempting to take flight lessons that are not part of a commercial aviation business lease agreement. Under the current AFSP policy, flight students who are not commercial pilots must obtain a M1 or F1 visa to take flight lessons in the U.S. If you wish to take flight lesson within the U.S., you will have to submit an application to a provider that is able to issue the I-20 which will allow for the issuance of a M or F visa." you can go with sim center, they are approved by the TSA, but they are not JAA. if I was you, do not pay anything until you have your M1 visa and TSA clearance. let the TRTO takes the risk. The immigration will deport you, not the school. concerning cost at simcenter, this is a minimum cost. ad 20-40% to be ready for the FAA checkride. if you have received an INS form explaining to come and study under a B2 visa...it is not longer valid, because the INS does not exist anymore!!!! |
hello
anyone has any idea where else can you do the EMB170/190 type rating how much is it in brazil, and the prices............ thanks |
Great info, thanks!
I really appreciate the great information you posted on type rating costs. I have once again found myself...er..."between jobs" as they say ("unemployed" as they also say) and am wondering if another type rating will make my resume heavier, or just make my wallet lighter.
Anyway, you've saved me a lot of trouble doing research by the information you posted. Thanks again! |
Cost of TR on Challenger Series?
Any info on the cost of TR on Challenger class of aircraft and also the cost of recurrent/upgrade will be highly appreciated.
Thanx Sam |
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any latest up-date on the 777 TR?
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