Atlantic Flight Training
 

Hi People!

I'm currently about to embark on my ATPL Theory distance learning at AFT in Coventry. I've been down to the school and had a good look around, plus quizzed the instructors about their operation etc. As anyone who has done their theory knows, choosing a school can be quite a task; however for me the location is perfectly suited as I only live 45 mins away. I'm also planning on finishing all my licenses with AFT upon completion of my theory, CPL, MEP/IR, MCC etc. My question is quite simple really, what are people's opinions of AFT for anyone that has any kind of experience with the school? I'm quite impressed with what I've seen and have been told so far, but any pros and cons would definitely be of help. Cheers guys.

Well, as a current distance-learning ATPL student with AFT , I can only give praise so far.

I've found the course material of a good quality, the people there very knowledgeable and friendly and I am impressed.

The cost of the ATPL theory is much of a muchness I think and I don't think you'll see the costs differ much between providers. AFT aren't one of the cheaper flight schools but in their defence, I will say that they do run a very professional outfit with some very modern and impressive equipment.

So far, so good :)

I've flown with AFT FI Andy to get some quality conversion time on my aircraft. Top bloke and knows his stuff.

They're quite into their aeroplanes (the owner's classic collection proves that) so I think from an outsider's viewpoint, they don't exhibit lacking passion.

I did my MECR and IR with AFT and was very impressed with the standard of instruction and the general attitude of everybody at the school. The only gripe I had was the lack of multiengine aircraft - this was when they only had 1 seminole to cover all the ME and advanced IR training, which meant I didn't get to fly quite as often as I would have liked. However, I understand they've now got some DA42 Twinstar's, so this problem has probably been alleviated. I can't comment on the groundschool side as I went elsewhere for that, but for the flying I would definitely recommend them. :ok:

joining Atlantic flight training
 

Hi folks,

Well this is my first post in PPRuNe and I am very happy to be a new user with many great people here.

My name is Aswin and I am Italian and 20 yo.
Since childhood I've dreamed a career as airline pilot and now I'd like to begin my path.
I have no experience and I'd like to achieve fATPL.

I find Atlantic Flight Training in Coventry very interesting and I'd like to join them soon! I know that AFT is great and has positive feedbacks.

But I have some questions for those who have attended/are attending AFT.

How did/do you feel?
How many instructors are there?
And are there int'l students?

In Italy there are some good flight trainings but I prefer to leave my country because I want to improve my level of English, which is intermediate - I hope to pick it up easily as I am in England...

Any comments, suggestions... everything is accepted :ok: !

Thanks in advace!
A.

www.flyingwork.it

www.aeroclubmilano.it/scuola/

www.aeroclubvarese.it/sito_new/ la_scuola/corsi_dett.asp?ID=7

for example (sorry in Italian)

Cheers, A.

ps. when i say \'good FTO\' i\'m not saying that we have an OAT or FTE in Italy...

:D

U forgot this...

http://www.professionevolare.it/

Expensive but well organized and A/Cs always in tip top shape. Shame they run courses in italian language only.

jstflying:

There are trashy FTOs in UK as well as good ones in Italy. Other story if you mean GA in general or CAA attitude...

PZ

:ok:

PS aswind: whenever you decide to join AFT could U let me know if they need FI(R) in the near future? PM if U prefer

Atlantic Flight Training in Coventry
 

Hi all,

After much thought, I have finally set out my plans. I am some what reluctantly going down the modular route since I simply can't afford integrated (banks have turned me down for loans). Whilst working on my physics doctorate at Aston University, I am going to start my PPL training early next year. Since I work and live near Birmingham, I'd like to attend a fairly local flight school. Having had a good look round, I believe the Coventry airport based Atlantic Flight Training seems to be the best. Is this a good assessment?

Since it is (and always has been) my aim to be an airline pilot, I'm trying to choose a school with a good reputation with the airlines. Does anyone know how Atlantic Flight Training holds up with the airlines? Do the airlines actually care about who you trained with?

Sorry if Atlantic Flight Training has been discussed in early posts, if anyone can direct me to posts I'd appreciate it. I have done a search, but not much came up.

Thanks in advance to those who reply.

All the best,

Steve.

Unless you go integrated with FTE/Oxford/Cabair then the airlines will not give a hoot.

If you're modular i don't think it really matters where you go as at the end of it all you're on your own out there.

Good luck with it all anyway. I've just finished IR. Its been tough. VERY tough, but very enjoyable also and when the examiner said its a pass after the NDB, it gives you a lot of satisfaction - and a big hangover the next day!

easyPilot,

I'm not sure of your age, but AFT are affiliated with Atlantic Airlines and they do take cadets on with a view to working their fleet. Worth looking into perhaps !

CG

The fact that they are also so busy is a good measure of the quality of the FTO.

They are serious but relaxed and will not settle for anything less than perfection. They do modular "back to back" which might be the easiest alternative to integrated. Their quotes are not always the cheapest, but value for money-wise I found them unbeatable; I also got first time passes at both CPL and IR (in the days of the Cessna 310).

Now they use Diamond Twinstars with FADEC-equipped Diesel engines, glass cockpit etc. and they have DiamondStars on order for the first bit of the CPL, so you'll end up doing your training on EFIS aicraft even before you reach MCC - for which they have a CRJ sim on order to replace/supplement the current King Air sim.

You'll also fly from Coventry, a proper commercial airport, with ATC, ATIS, controlled airspace, instrument procedures on site etc.

All in all, I would gladly recommend Atlantic (even though I don't get anything out of it); they were damn good when I trained and they have become even better since!

Cheers :cool:

A PPL is required for the cadet scheme, although the connections between the two are certainly established.

Thanks for the replies guys. FougaMagister, a very informative post there mate - cheers for that. Based upon that (since you have actually studied there and given a glowing review), I will definitely be using Atlantic Flight Training.

Thanks again guys.

Steve.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all.

Did my conversion from a foreign licence there a couple of years back. I would go back and do it again. AFT is expanding so there are growing pains so to speak, but over all a top notch organization.

Pete, Matt and the rest of the gang are a good bunch to deal with. You are not just a number which is a big thing to me and the level of training is high. A great place to train.

Good luck.

I did my IR there a couple of years ago and I felt I was fairly treated at all times. Pricing policy is v decent and you won't get shafted if things go wrong and it's not your fault.

It isn't what you say, it's what you do!!
 

The best recommendation is from those that have, and those that do; so I will be doing the theory course with AFT, and the flight training.

So, as I have been there (so to speak), and I am willing to go there again to train, that must speak volumes for my confidence in them.

I will not knock other schools, but I can also recommend Cranfield Flight Training. David Coulson is one in a million!!

atlantic school
 

atlantic flight training school do they do integrated route i have their
prospectus and they say tthey train from ppl-frozen atpl

Re: atlantic school
 

Why don't you ask the school itself? I'm sure you have their contact details if you have the prospectus.

Scroggs

Re: atlantic school
 

Its a full time modular course,they are not approved for integrated.
I think only Cabair/Oxford/Eft? are at the moment in the U.K.

Fair bit cheaper though and you get done in the same amount of time,probably make some good contacts there as well,plenty of operators based there.
You do full time ground school,which in my opinion is the most important bit,since I'm struggling to get on with it distance learning.
The flying training will be no different to an integrated course apart from the course structure.
Same quals for less cash!:ok:

Re: atlantic school
 

Anybody got an opinion on this school?

Re: atlantic school
 

A quick flick to the next page of this forum, or even a non-intensive search will reveal http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=203119 :rolleyes:

Re: atlantic school
 

Here's a radical idea - why not answer the question?

"atlantic flight training school do they do integrated route"

No

Re: atlantic school
 

I think you'll find 'answering the question' was what markflyer did in post 3.

Re: Atlantic Flight Training in Coventry
 

Hi there

Sounds like a great place from what's been said. Is there any accommodation on site at it, if so what sort of money are we talking? (when ya don't have a car it's a hell of a lot easier/cheaper living on site)

cheers folks :ok:

Re: Atlantic Flight Training in Coventry
 

Just out of curiousity....should one not learn the IR on traditional instruments then progress to EFIS?

If you do your IR training in an EFIS aircraft then land a MEP / SEP air taxi work on the old traditional instruments, would one be confident / competant?

I want to learn like the next person next to me on traditional instruments then progress to the...easier system of EFIS! ;)

Re: Atlantic Flight Training in Coventry
 

In fact with the basic fATPL/IR you can't go straight into IFR air taxi work because JAR-OPS requires a minimum of 700 hours for this.

Re: Atlantic Flight Training in Coventry
 

Ah yes, I forgot that requirement...

So lets say you do your training on EFIS, complete on around 230hrs...then your flying SEPs on VFR instruction for 1 year till you get that magic 700hrs, pass IR renewal then start IFR taxi work on an traditionally kitted instrument aircraft! ;)

You will be even more out of tune on EFIS / IR flying and probably slightly worse on the ole clock n dials....this is a worry I have over IR training on EFIS and hoping to see someones elses views? or hear about a past experience from anyone who's done this route!

Re: Atlantic Flight Training in Coventry
 

I did the IR on a DA42.

All you need to worry about at your stage is passing the IR and believe me the DA42 will help you do this.

If you have week legs forget it as it is a bitch to fly on one engine as the rudder input required is substantial! Having said that the pro's outweigh the cons:

Pros

-Self identifying nav aids
-Self setting transponder alt
-massive warnings that tell you things like pitot off
-digital baro setting meaning you can't really set it wrong
-one lever instead of three

cons

-difficulty flying on one engine
-middle stick (which i just didn't like)
-fiddly rudder pedals

Good luck anyway.

Can you clarify?
 

<<<<Unless you go integrated with FTE/Oxford/Cabair then the airlines will not give a hoot.

If you're modular i don't think it really matters where you go as at the end of it all you're on your own out there.>>>>

I believe modular refers to simply taking on course for one license at a time and the integrated version means planning on becoming a professional piloit right form the outset with training to match.

Do I have that right?

Rob Mark

flying on a DA 42 will not give you the privilege to receive a cpl for standard planes(no EFIS), maybe I am wrong. any comments?

Flying your CPL skills test on the DA42 will not compromise your CPL, ie you will not be restricted to only EFIS aircraft.

If you do your MEP class rating on the DA42 then you will be restricted to single power lever aircraft until you differences training as you would for any new twin you fly.

ie you get offered an air taxi job on a Cessna 421 , you do differences training to cover, Turbo charging, pressurisation and 6 lever operation.

:)

Atlantic Flight Training Ltd
 

Hello everyone I'd like to know if one of you know something or have feedbacks about this FTO :rolleyes: Thanks a lot

My experience is that the theoretical courses are very thorough and exceed the JAA requirements. Study with AFT and you will have a competent level of knowledge that will be more than is required just to get you through the exams.

One of their Ground Instructors told me that they want to make the candidates understand well enough to be good CPL/ATPL's in the real world, and they are not just an exam passing pipeline. No disrespect to any other organisations was implied, just a quiet confidence in what AFT do.

(oh but there are always busy and your assessments don't always come back promptly!)

Did you do the full time course at AFT or the distance learning?

TJF97

CPL - not ATPL (although it might as well have been for the level of detail) distance learning.

PM me if you want to know specifics.

I completed my CPL flying last year with AFT and I only have high praises for them. A very professional outfit who will work hard for you and get you to the level required and beyond.

I competed my CPL in 23 calendar days with only 2 days lost due tech problems.

A good choice and I will be going back to do my IR.

Atlantic Aviation Covetry???
 

Does anyone know of the reputation of this school? Considering a course there but I need to ensure good serviceability and reliable flight programming to ensure that I get my training done in a clearly defined period.

Thanks

Never heard of them. Do you mean Atlantic Flight Training?

Yes thats them. Thanks

Try SEARCHING! It's at the top of your screen.

If you type in Atlantic Flight Training, you will find the following thread:

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=212872

That should get you started...:ok: