AEROFAN Flight Training (merged)
 

Hey, i saw an ad for Aerofan in Pilot last month, and their procves seem pretty good. I emailed them for more inform ,and they say they are full of UK students up until August i think.]

Now, at the same time, I was browsing the CAA doc on approved FTOs and I didnt see Aerofan on them at all.

Does this mean that this FTO is not recognised by the CAA. If so, what are the implications on my training? I want JAA licenses, but im not sure if they could be issed with Aerofan,

But I hope they are! As they seem really reasonable. perhaps the doc was a little out of date??

ANy help/account of your experiences would be great. Ive searched the forums. and I have heard people have trained here. SO im assuming its just an out of date document. Or my understanding of the situation is blurrud.

Does the CAA have to approve the school in order for me to get the JAA licenses, and hace ALL of my training approved?

Spain is a JAA member state - the CAA aren't the only authority that can issue JAA licences.

See www.jaa.nl

Beware
 

Beware is all ill say (before someone throws a wobbly !). Make sure you check all that stuff out properly ! Also think of the language barrier and your ability as a pilot at the end of it all.

Happy flying

I have the same problem - I'm looking to do a JAR FI rating but probably won't have the time or money until October. Aerofan looks great but what happens when you try to get the rating issued, and then try to get an instructor job in the UK?

But I can't find another European FTO that'll match it's prices!

Al

yeah, they are cheap, plus just a few hours away, no visa. no expensive airfare, nor jetlag. I hope they are goo, ive not heard many experiences of them thought, but I was told by AEROFAN that all UK places are ful up til Summer, so theres definately a few Brits there!

blueb0y79 please check your PM.

AF

Aerofan IR Course
 

I would be very interested in any feedback about this FTO either good or bad, does seem to appear very good .... or would that be 'too good to be true'


Would be interested in any info ex or current UK students have regarding training with Aerofan

Cheers in advance

I second that !Any feed back is vital for someone considering this as a training provider.I did put up a post to talk directly about aerofan`s standards, so to speak.Surely someone on here has trained there?

Been There For Visit !!
 

Hi All,

Been down to Madrid and visited Aerofan !

Experience..



Located in Cuatro Vientos suburb of Madrid a busy Airport with Military and GA flying.

Aerofan had 2 sims about to be commissioned when I was there an ex Japan Airlines Beechcraft Fixed Sim and an ex Gatwick Sim they were waiting on Phase 3 power to operate them.

The Aircraft is all maintained by inhouse staff, Cessna 152, 172 Bonanza and a twin Cessna.

Aerofan are located beside the Royal Aeroclub and have the use of their facilities.

Its a homely place all the staff are nice and helpful . This is an up and coming FTO its early days and they are trying to improve all the time.

Their pricing is indeed very competitive.


Regards,


Cliste

How far is aerofan away from the main airport which i would arrive at with i.e ezy?And is there accomodation close to the training centre? :O

Aerofan
 

Hi,

The public transport system in Madrid is excellent, you can take Metro it will get you close by.

Taxi from Madrid Airport cost circa €20 you can get a 10 journey public transport ticket for €5.40.

Accommodation around Aerofan is plentyful living in Spain is not expensive.

Aerofan have an arrangement with the Royal Madrid Aeroclub you can stay there if you wish and you have the free use of their facilities Pool etc.

If you need any further information pm

Cliste

aerodynamics
 

Aerodynamics are a far better school based in Malaga full ILS VOR NDB you don´t have to fly 50 nm away to start IR training they do a combined CPL/ME/IR with BCT kemble I also know 8 people who have recommended them, good English instructors trained at the former Bae systems in Jerez, check it out, theres a turbo type and 50 line training course available. Plus you can jump on the sea.

Huge price difference between aerofan and aerodynamics.
Why is THAT?????????::confused:

I'm considering doing an IR there. Any help as to the quality etc. would be very valuable.

I'm looking at doing an FI with these chaps in July this year and would appreciate any feedback before I book.

They have stated to me that they have trained many FI's from the UK recently so hopefully someone on here should have trained with them.

Regards

UA

price difference
 

I had a good look at this price difference too and worked it out that at aerofan you have to fly out to 50 nm to start training due to madrid controlled airspace at aerodynamics its full ILS NDB VOR on take off and landings, price difference is that aerodynamics advertise an ME IR. including ME rating which puts the addtional 1500 quid on it. Aerodynamics are well respected in Spain, France and Germany and have several Euorpeans who fly for them.

hey
 

im training out of cuatro vientos and true it is a zulu airport (start vfr and at 4000ft above aerodrome u enter madrid airspace and change to ifr) we do our training in valencia for me ir, just wanted to get that sorted, not in aerofan either but they are flying here a lot and very busy fto,
regards P

Just back to ortiginal point the UK CAA must issue a rating from another JAA state.

Has been done already, i know for a fact that at least 2 fellows from the UK did his FIC in Aerofan, no problems whatsoever, check it with the the UK CAA.

I did my FIC there and they where good and cheap, believe i did my integrated in Airmed and there is no possible comparation, besides you do 10 hours on C150 Aerobat and the rest in Beech Bonanza,
accomodation and food is cheap and good, weather is OK.

They arranged for me a room within the AD for 10 Euros per day, (of course there was no TV or Room service, just the bed a table chair, wardrobe, and separate personal Toilet and shower).
You can eat in the Restaurant within the ADfor about 8 euros a 3 course meal , very nice food, this is the restaurant of the Royal Aeroclub.

Only thing , try not to do it during july and august or you'll know what is sweating 10 Paints per hour.

Language is not an issue, since all FI's speak fluent english , so you'll do the ground instruction in english.

In recent months i've heard that they have a british FI.

:ok:

AEROFAN Flight Training (merged)
 

HI, Has anyone completed any training with AEROFAN , down at Cuatro Vientois airport in Madrid. Looking to complete my jet F/O with them and would apreciate any feedback anyone can give me who had any experience with them whatsoever. thanks.

hey, I dont think there are many who have on here. I asked a similar question, and I dont think anyone had personally trained with them, Which is a shame, They are very cheap, and some feedback would be great!

I would also be very interested in finding out anybodys experiences at AEROFAN. I am looking to do my CPL, IR, Multi there?

Regards

Richard

I haven't got any experience with them, actually looking for a CPL myself.

I have noticed their price of around €47000 is significantly lower than what's quoted elsewhere. Even taking into account living expenses (estimated at €600/mo accom + €750/mo food in or near Madrid), it still works out some €20K cheaper than their competitor at Jerez.

I'm after a CPL but not interested on airline transport, so no ATPL. I am tempted to call them and inquire. Has anyone actually seen them / talked with them yet?

Breathless brazen babble binned barred bollocked.

is it my imagination or is it everytime anyone asks about Aerofan, a wee plug for BCT/Aerodynamics seems to creep in?:confused:

ir at aerofan
 

Yeah I could do with some information on aerofan. Seem to cheap, though. I had some experiances in the usa with cheap places .... dicing with death.

Aerodynamics seem a bit expensive for what they offer. You can get a similar price IR in the UK. surely?

I phoned Aerofan ( uk rep in spain) , he seemed very harreessed and busy and told me to look at the internet site....

I agree pipergirl this forum seems to be full of the same advertising plugs over and over saying the same thing. I guess they cannot afford the banners.

yea, i know!!! lol

another classic one-
ask about Airways and u'll get bombarded with information on how great Flight Pass is+no information whatsoever about ur original query:confused:

I have been trying to e-mail them now for the last 2-3 days asking for general information on CPL, multi, IR etc, and as of yet no reply????

I do need to call them, but I like to know some of the facts and figures before I speak to a flight school - I get a feeling that one or two out there can be like buying a second hand car of Arthur Daley!

Anybody spoken to them, or got any information sent from them??

Regards

Richard

Hi there,

I e-mailed them last week ([email protected]) to get some info on CPL and IR training and got a reply back within a couple of days.

Don't have any first hand experience of the school but a friend completed his ICAO IR conversion with them and spoke fairly highly of them

AEROFAN
 

I've noticed they have a different contact number on the Spanish version of their website (a fixed line number in Madrid, as opposed to a mobile on their English page). They also have a good deal more info in their Spanish page, with pricing details for individual courses, etc. Seems their ATPL does not include MCC unless you want it and pay some €5500 or so extra for it (makes sense I suppose).

Anyway, if anyone has any specific queries, I can get a Spanish friend to give them a call on their Spanish number and ask whichever questions come through your collective mind and report back.

Hi

I did mr MEIR at aerofan, and dont have a bad word to say against them, i had a really good time there and they taught me well. If anyone has any questions PM me, will be glad to help.

Flying paddy

I heard that the Spanish CAA has done an audit at AeroFan. Sorry that I don't have more details of it. Somebody should ask the school directly about it...

AEROFAN Flight Training (merged)
 

I am looking for anybody that has recently trained with Aerofan. What i am interested to know is what the accomodation is like around the school and how much it cost to live out there. I have used the search and found nothing on actual living costs so any feedback would be very welcome.

Thanks

I would like to know too. When are you thinking of going?

hello, in reply to you both, i am going out to AEROFAN in october. i have researced accomadation for months in Madrid, and one thing that i have found is that it is dmm expensive to rent. Aerofan will put you in a house share with a few other guys if req. i am going over with my partner so need to find a place of my own. there are a few agencys in spain which you can pay ariund 200 eur and they will hook you up with a place. The feedback i have got is that there are 5 time more people looking for rentals than there are propertys to rent!. drop me a mail and let me know when you are thinking of going. i am thinking of doing a recce in the next few weeks, and if i find anything out, i will let you know.

I wanted to go as soon as possible but accommodation is holding me back at the moment and if it is too expensive i may not end up going for another 6 months. If when you go you could let me know how much its going to cost me for both shared and rented accommodation it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

give James Ward a call at Aerofan. he said he could help me out with accomadation, the house share i think worked out at around 400- 450 eur a month, not to bad considering. There is a good metro system in Madrid for getting around, running straight into cuatro vientos.

If i get any more info i will let you know. Out of interest, what training r u going out there for??. i am hopefully enroling on the first officer jet course. im heading out to Ormand Beach in three weeks for my PPL and 50 hrs hour building, and then out to AEROFAN.

first officer jet course also as long as i pass the assesment. Ive tried calling but cannot get through and e-mailed them on friday but no reply as of yet. 450 euros isnt that bad. Maybe i will see you there and good luck with ormand beech.

to be honest mate, james isnt the quickest at getting back to you, give him a few days and he will usually reply, i get the impression he is pretty busy. well i am hoping to get out there in october, would be good to have another northern monkey on the course!!, catch you soon mate