winapilotlicense.com
Anybody seen this?
http://winapilotlicense.com/ What do you think? There site seems to answer all the obvious questions but is it just another SCAM? |
Laugh - i nearly wet myself!!! What a load of crap. Haven't even got the required hours correct!!! Sad thing is some people will probably have a shot.
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win a license
i am on the case i will find out if it is a scam i want them in jail :mad: :mad: :mad: :}
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Googling reveals the following: (appears it could work, but there is no due diligence or trust structure to ensure good corporate governance - good luck to Kaare if it is indeed genuine)
All in, the details don't appear odd if not amateur - the cautions probably relate to the company secretary rather than Kaare who has no other directorships apparantly? Company Name: PROPITIOUS AVIATION LIMITED Company Number: 05013879 Date of Incorporation: 13/01/2004 Company Secretary: BOYES TURNER SECRETARIES LIMITED Registered Office: FIRST FLOOR ABBOTS HOUSE ABBEY STREET READING BERKSHIRE RG1 3BD Post Code: RG1 3BD Names of Directors : KAARE INGEBRIGTSEN, Business Activities: General Commercial Company SIC Codes: 9272 MOTION PICTURE, TELEVISION, THEATRICAL CASTING US SIC Codes: 8999 SERVICES NEC CRO Activity: 13/01/2004 New Incorporation 08/06/2004 Registered Name Change 19/01/2005 Annual Return Made Up Date 19/01/2005 SIC Codes Previous Names : 08/06/2004 ABBOTS 320 LIMITED Principal Shareholders: Kaare Ingebrigtsen 2 Manor Farm Cottages East Shalford Lane Guildford GU4 8AF Caution.Current/previous Director(s) and/or current/previous Secretary have been recorded as being directors of a company/or companies which have been struck off the Register of Companies as a result of either a subject company voluntary application or due to non compliance. Caution.Previous Director(s) and/or Secretary have been recorded as holding/having held 2 or more other directorships in a company/companies which have been subjected to voluntary or compulsory winding up procedures or administration orders. Name: KAARE INGEBRIGTSEN Nationality: NORWEGIAN Date of Birth: 11/02/1968 From pilotweb.co.uk: Kaare Ingebrigtsen UK Send Email Back to Pilot List Location: UK Hours: 130 Date Registered: 05/05/2004 07:49:19 Last Updated: 09/05/2004 Qualifications CAA PPL Airfields BLACKBUSHE (United Kingdom) REDHILL (United Kingdom) - appeared to own a share in a microlight there. Used/involved with century-2k.com website design (hmmm): "Going with C2K was the best decision we could have made..." Kaare Ingebrigtsen - MD Propitious Aviation UKGA.com: Hangarage wanted Hants/Berks area Sun 9 Jan - Kaare Ingebrigtsen Hangarage and use of field suitable for J400 to rent in the Hampshire/Berkshire (East) area wanted. Also turns up a sport liferaft service station in Tromso on zodiacsolas.com (probably someone else): Z1405 SPORTSHUSET SERVICESTASJON AS TEL : +47 77 65 34 00 SKATTORAV. 61 FAX : +47 77 61 19 97 E MAIL : [email protected] 9018 TROMSO CONTACT : KAARE INGEBRIGTSEN pro·pi·tious ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pr-pshs) adj. Presenting favorable circumstances; auspicious. See Synonyms at favorable. Kindly; gracious. adj : presenting favorable circumstances; "propitious omens". aus·pi·cious ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ô-spshs) adj. Attended by favorable circumstances; propitious: an auspicious time to ask for a raise in salary. See Synonyms at favorable. Marked by success; prosperous. |
Simply a scam
Enough people buy the tickets and then they run the draw. You are essentially funding 1/445 of 45 hours of flying lessons.
If you win they will be for a NPPL and no doubt at a very inconvenient location. But of course you wont so there is no need to worry. |
Not even very well-informed - an NPPL does not require 45 hours of training.
This is like those car raffles you see at major airports nowadays. I'd love to win a DB9, but the cost of all the tickets sold covers the total cost of 2 DB9s! In this case the tickets sold as shown do not nearly cover costs, but that has not been updated since February, and the draw is at the end of November! |
Well, the DB9's you can 'win' there are also underwritten by Lloyds insurance in case anyone does win. Total rip off, but nice to have a gander on an airport standby! Off topic sorry!
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I'm worried about this now, because in their news section they say you can text in to 81808 with"PPL" to enter.
Now Air Cadets, as I was, are young and mad keen on aviation (honest I was) so are likely to do this, however they don't mention how much the text costs, and it could be any amount, couldn't it?? Looks like a barely legal scam to me, but I'm open to correction. |
£29 for a ticket, or
2) Enter our SMS competition for £5 for a minimum of 1-in-9 chance of winning one of the above mentioned tickets (Text "PPL" to 81808) "£5" for a "chance" at having a ticket by text........doesn't fill me with confidence! Especially given the blokes history someone posted above ^ :ugh: I'm involved with the ACO and I know of loads of kids who wouldn't think twice about texting in! I wonder if this "lottery" has been registered and complies with the law? http://www.culture.gov.uk/gambling_a...%2C&print=true The general rule is that lotteries cannot be run for private or commercial gain. |
Having checked recent NOTAMS, it appears there is intensive aerial pig activity online.
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Hads anyone informed the Dept for debased Culture, Meeja and Sport, like?
Only just over £4,000 if you choose the cheapest schools, PhilM. Only need to sell 150 tickets to cover outlay, maybe 750 text entries or any combination. TRon I was talking about the ones in the airports and big shopping centres that sell a certain number of tickets before they ever draw. They have guaranteed to cover the cost of car, their overheads and a fat profit by that stage! The ones you are talking about are usually much cheaper, more unlikely games like "throw 7 dice, all 6s wins the car", which at 1:279,936 odds per throw gives a reasonable insurance rate, even if they do have to send a representative to watch! |
Doesn't the website claim to offer a JAA licence? What has the NPPL got to do with the JAA?? NPPL is only a CAA licence, and is not recognised anywhere else.
I'm open to correction...!! |
Both interesting, and both appear to show the above as falling outside the law.
http://www.chorley.gov.uk/upload/pub...noteslic29.pdf http://www.culture.gov.uk/gambling_a...mpetitions.htm The site says the following, but it is not registered as a company specialising in such, nor is the ownership of the below aircraft included in the listing for the company's aims posted above: "Propitious Aviation Limited is a registerd limited company specalizing in Prize Competitions as defined under English law. The operation of the competitions have passed a legal review to ensure conformity with English law. References from Boyes Turner solicitors are available on request." Also...from G-INFO - additions 28/03/2005 - 10/04/2005: G-JJAB NEW UK JABIRU J400 PROPITIOUS AVIATION LTD The price? Ready Built:- Jabiru Calypso UL-D, factory built, cles en main (keys in hand!) complete with upholstery, seat belts, winglets, propeller, spats, disk brakes, basic VFR and engine instruments. It even includes a Microair 760 radio and headsets! Available first quarter 2005! £36,000 Interestingly the advert at the bottom of the webpage takes you to French apartments owned by a family-member as follows: Contact Information For more information and to book contact Harald Ingebrigtsen in English, French, German or Scandinavian Telephone: +47 90 78 77 52 Alt. telephones: +33 663 48 61 89 or +33 492 18 93 98 Fax: +47 67 97 20 53 By E-mail: click to send e-mail |
I tried to inform the Gaming Board, but their email address doesn't exist (their website doesn't work properly either - how incompetent can a government agency be allowed to become?)
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