IR.. Tishoo tishoo we all fall down!
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The reason the instructor reacted with a 'characteristic shrug' is that the previous messages had left a bad taste in his mouth. Despite that this unprofessional, negative, unzippy etc. instructor said nothing, carried on as normal for three further traing flights, arrived early on the day of the test to provide any last minute support that may have been required. Some people knowing that the problem in any situation is their own still feel the need to to allocate blame to all and sundry. All of the above is not in any way to detract from the achievement of passing the IR on the first attempt. That is always due to the performance of the candidate. Well done and good luck for the future.
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I m glad you can recommend the FTO, but why the concerns over the instructors?
Did they not provide you with enough moral support or help? Did you confuse different instruction technique, with maybe a non-committal attitude or a CFI whose personality was unapproachable?
Personally I would never go to an FTO where I thought the instructors did not care or the CFI could not help me. Especially if he was so far beyond the evolutionary chain to talk to his students!
Did your instructor turn up early to give you moral support and help you through? Did your CFI have a word with examiner to say how nervous you were? What happened behind the scenes that you did not notice, as you were so stressed?
Did you really only have a lapse in confidence in the last two flights, or was it more deep routed than that?
I have found over the years that students believe what they want to believe and hear what they want to hear. Its upsetting to hear that instructors don’t care or the CFI is unapproachable, as I personally have had nothing but the finest instruction and all the help I have ever asked for and more! If only I was as good as my instructors. If only I could live up to their expectations. All my faults are my own and no one else’s, I will not blame my instructors for that.
Have you experienced any other FTO’s to compare? How did you get on there? Did you change courses?
I find peoples experiences at FTO’s very interesting as I have had some bad experience of finance, but no bad experience of instructors. The only poor instructing I have experienced are of tales from students who have not passed.
How ever I have also seen students who have been deemed as untrainable by possibly the best known of FTO’s and seen instructors help them through with a first time pass!
Who is right? Who knows? Skill is all very well and good, but we all need LUCK!!!
On that note I wish you the very best of luck with your future and hope you have a safe flying
Career
Did they not provide you with enough moral support or help? Did you confuse different instruction technique, with maybe a non-committal attitude or a CFI whose personality was unapproachable?
Personally I would never go to an FTO where I thought the instructors did not care or the CFI could not help me. Especially if he was so far beyond the evolutionary chain to talk to his students!
Did your instructor turn up early to give you moral support and help you through? Did your CFI have a word with examiner to say how nervous you were? What happened behind the scenes that you did not notice, as you were so stressed?
Did you really only have a lapse in confidence in the last two flights, or was it more deep routed than that?
I have found over the years that students believe what they want to believe and hear what they want to hear. Its upsetting to hear that instructors don’t care or the CFI is unapproachable, as I personally have had nothing but the finest instruction and all the help I have ever asked for and more! If only I was as good as my instructors. If only I could live up to their expectations. All my faults are my own and no one else’s, I will not blame my instructors for that.
Have you experienced any other FTO’s to compare? How did you get on there? Did you change courses?
I find peoples experiences at FTO’s very interesting as I have had some bad experience of finance, but no bad experience of instructors. The only poor instructing I have experienced are of tales from students who have not passed.
How ever I have also seen students who have been deemed as untrainable by possibly the best known of FTO’s and seen instructors help them through with a first time pass!
Who is right? Who knows? Skill is all very well and good, but we all need LUCK!!!
On that note I wish you the very best of luck with your future and hope you have a safe flying
Career
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For the record, if I've given the impression that the FTO or my instructor were in any way deficient, that absolutely wasn't the case.
Pickingup: You hit the nail on the head. I did transfer from another FTO, where I had a very bad experience, over an extended period, which completely destroyed my confidence. It meant that I came to the new one very much more in need of "boosting" than the average student. No-one can be blamed for that, except the original FTO. And me, for not dealing with it better. I didn't explain my background when I changed over, deliberately. Perhaps that was a mistake.
I am in fact extremely grateful to everyone at FTO "X" who got me through... especially the famous Shrugging Instructor.. Whose teaching is in fact second to none. And not only in my experience.. !
- Cait
Pickingup: You hit the nail on the head. I did transfer from another FTO, where I had a very bad experience, over an extended period, which completely destroyed my confidence. It meant that I came to the new one very much more in need of "boosting" than the average student. No-one can be blamed for that, except the original FTO. And me, for not dealing with it better. I didn't explain my background when I changed over, deliberately. Perhaps that was a mistake.
I am in fact extremely grateful to everyone at FTO "X" who got me through... especially the famous Shrugging Instructor.. Whose teaching is in fact second to none. And not only in my experience.. !
- Cait
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Or as my CAAFU said getting out of the plane after the debrief points but not actually telling me if i passed.
"well thats 12 months to your next renewal"
****, luckly the renewal dosn't seem half as stressful as the first one
weight off your shoulders. You don't actually realise how much stress you are under until afterwards. I slept for 18 hours after mine and the school nearly sent out search parties because I hadn't been heard from for 2 days.
"well thats 12 months to your next renewal"
****, luckly the renewal dosn't seem half as stressful as the first one
weight off your shoulders. You don't actually realise how much stress you are under until afterwards. I slept for 18 hours after mine and the school nearly sent out search parties because I hadn't been heard from for 2 days.
