This psychometric farse!!!
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These tests suck, but there are different tests, there is the one where you have to count dominos and the one where your employers can "evaluate" your personality.
The first one is an insult to any pilot.If I can fly instrument I can certainly count stupid dominos.If I can pass a check ride or a written tests, I can tell you that the next number after 2,4,8,? is 16!
and for these kind of tests, you can buy books and train your self to reach a good score, so what's the point?Answer: ELIMINATION.
The first one is an insult to any pilot.If I can fly instrument I can certainly count stupid dominos.If I can pass a check ride or a written tests, I can tell you that the next number after 2,4,8,? is 16!
and for these kind of tests, you can buy books and train your self to reach a good score, so what's the point?Answer: ELIMINATION.
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The fact is that most airlines employ these tests in some from or other. Your opinions of them are irrelevant. If you want a job, you will have to undertake these tests. For some types of test (verbal reasoning, maths) there are ways of practising, for others (most of the psychobabble ones) there aren't. Either put up and shut, up or find another line of work. You aren't going to change this!
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www, just a thought; assuming you passed a trick cyclist test for your current position, that gives you a 33% pass rate.
did you learn anything from the first 2, was the third a fluke, or the initial 2 an "off" day in terms of your own personal psychological asessment?
as for myself,i've passed a few, and failed one, without any idea why, but i haven't studied psychology, all be it hpl.
it just seems to me that with something that it is held with so much importance the pass rate should be higher than 33%, simply due to the fact that it purports to be a measure of intringent personality.
yes we all have to pass them, and yes it weeds out the totally strange,anything other is just weeding by numbers.
there again i always prefered to be personnel rather than a human resource.....
did you learn anything from the first 2, was the third a fluke, or the initial 2 an "off" day in terms of your own personal psychological asessment?
as for myself,i've passed a few, and failed one, without any idea why, but i haven't studied psychology, all be it hpl.
it just seems to me that with something that it is held with so much importance the pass rate should be higher than 33%, simply due to the fact that it purports to be a measure of intringent personality.
yes we all have to pass them, and yes it weeds out the totally strange,anything other is just weeding by numbers.
there again i always prefered to be personnel rather than a human resource.....
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No I passed the actual psychometric elements of the BA CEP/TPS - it was the psychologist that did for me both times 
If you could only see the maths and the research behind many of the pilot selection tests then you would be convinced.
Any results dervied from studies have to follow proper scientific practice of lab report and peer evaluation. Any result must stand up to standard statistical analysis. Generally correlations of .82 or better are required.
Trainee pilots seem to hold test pilots in awe and pilot tests in contempt. An ignorance of the work of both is to blame.
Cheers,
WWW
If you could only see the maths and the research behind many of the pilot selection tests then you would be convinced.
Any results dervied from studies have to follow proper scientific practice of lab report and peer evaluation. Any result must stand up to standard statistical analysis. Generally correlations of .82 or better are required.
Trainee pilots seem to hold test pilots in awe and pilot tests in contempt. An ignorance of the work of both is to blame.
Cheers,
WWW
