Hour building in states at christmas, any ideas ?
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Thanks again mad_jock an Sensible,
I will have to find out for sure, maybe I will phone the CAA, do you think they will know
I think flying in and around the clouds is what its all about, there is nothing more beautiful than passing up through the cloud into the sunshine !
When I find out, I'll post it here so that there is no confusion,
Yours again,
Buster
I will have to find out for sure, maybe I will phone the CAA, do you think they will know
I think flying in and around the clouds is what its all about, there is nothing more beautiful than passing up through the cloud into the sunshine !
When I find out, I'll post it here so that there is no confusion,
Yours again,
Buster
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Truly flattered that I am attacked on a topic on which I hadn't posted and, also, on a school which I have never recommended or commented upon in any way. The hypocrites then alerted everyone to their problem- you like Ormond Beach Aviation!
I have never questioned the fact that some Wannabes are both genuine and satisfied with the places they name but simply object to the repeated plugging of places on PPRuNe, by their agents, employees and owners.
My suggestion on your topic is that it is normal for novices to fancy a change of school, scenery etc. Equally true is that there is always somewhere which seems like it might be cheaper or better for hour-building but think carefully before you go somewhere different, especially if it is recommended on PPRuNe or just to save a few dollars or pounds.
Concluding with- if you are convinced you could do better, just go to San Diego or Sherburn or Shoreham or South Africa or Sweden or somewhere else- you(r money) should receive a very warm welcome anywhere at present!
Anything wrong with that advice?
I have never questioned the fact that some Wannabes are both genuine and satisfied with the places they name but simply object to the repeated plugging of places on PPRuNe, by their agents, employees and owners.
My suggestion on your topic is that it is normal for novices to fancy a change of school, scenery etc. Equally true is that there is always somewhere which seems like it might be cheaper or better for hour-building but think carefully before you go somewhere different, especially if it is recommended on PPRuNe or just to save a few dollars or pounds.
Concluding with- if you are convinced you could do better, just go to San Diego or Sherburn or Shoreham or South Africa or Sweden or somewhere else- you(r money) should receive a very warm welcome anywhere at present!
Anything wrong with that advice?
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Query - I'm interested to note that you are "truly flattered" - even though we are pointing out what a prat you are.
Also curious about the phrase "I have never questioned the fact that some Wannabes are both genuine and satisfied with the places they name ...." I have yet to see ANY posting where you have not immediately attacked the message writer as an agent of the company they recommended - normally in direct response to somebody asking for recommendations.
That - you @#$%^&* - was the entire point.
It really is nothing to be flattered about - indeed, it's more to be ashamed about.
Also curious about the phrase "I have never questioned the fact that some Wannabes are both genuine and satisfied with the places they name ...." I have yet to see ANY posting where you have not immediately attacked the message writer as an agent of the company they recommended - normally in direct response to somebody asking for recommendations.
That - you @#$%^&* - was the entire point.
It really is nothing to be flattered about - indeed, it's more to be ashamed about.
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Naples Air Center!! I gained my PPL there last year and strongly recommend them. If you thought OBA were good, try NAC as I found them quite excellent. If you want to drop me a line I will assist you re more info...Naples Airport is good experience too. It can be pretty busy which is never a bad thing for the grey matter!!
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re. Gone West's allegation:
'I have yet to see ANY posting where you have not immediately attacked the message writer as an agent of the company they recommended'
may be searched and dismissed as rubbish.
In any case, there are plenty of current topics, including this, on which I posted and in which companies are recommended by people and I haven't criticised them/it. Furthermore, I have just suggested going to San Diego, Sweden etc. if that's what suits.
I don't care where you go but search 'Gone West' and you will find Naples recommended as, no doubt by sheer co-incidence, does the person who posted after him !
'I have yet to see ANY posting where you have not immediately attacked the message writer as an agent of the company they recommended'
may be searched and dismissed as rubbish.
In any case, there are plenty of current topics, including this, on which I posted and in which companies are recommended by people and I haven't criticised them/it. Furthermore, I have just suggested going to San Diego, Sweden etc. if that's what suits.
I don't care where you go but search 'Gone West' and you will find Naples recommended as, no doubt by sheer co-incidence, does the person who posted after him !
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Let me save you some time and effort...
I do recommend NAC - whenever I'm asked...and I do believe that OVERALL - I say again, OVERALL - they are the best outfit in Florida for JAA PPL training.
If asked for sepcific recommendations - I would suggest Debenair (TIX) for hour building when cost is the main factor, Britannia (GIF) for a JAA PPL if you want lowest price and/or are short of time (no more than three weeks)...and they have a GREAT atmosphere amongst the staff and students...for highly professional training (i.e. first rate JAA rated instructors) for either private or commercial courses my recommendation would be either European Flight Training (FPR) or International Flight Training (SUA). If you want a good centralised touring base then the vote goes to Orlando Flight Training (ISM).
Now - this information is based on my own views at this time and date. It is also based on the facts that I have not mentioned ANY of the "down sides" of any of these operators - each and every one has its own problems....some of them trivial, some of them quite serious (in my view).
Another point to take in mind is that I tell you this information openly, as a Florida based pilot with both JAA and FAA personal connections and flight experience - I do not pretend to be somebody else...say, for example, a private pilot in England when I actually own a flying school in Florida.
If I haven't mentioned anybody it is because I either do not know enough about them or do not recommend them if anybody asks me.
I am not employed by any one of these schools.
I have litle or nothing to gain wherever you guys go for your training - and it p****s me off no end when I hear schools whining about students having gone elsewhere. There is so much work coming across the Atlantic that there is enough for all the schools. What they ought to be doing is banding together to fight the JAA restrictions that are threatened, the Florida statute regulations that are seriously threatened and the bad name that Florida Flight Training gets when they all try to tear each other apart.
For ***'s sake, get together aim for the common good of the student - with the end result of the common good of the Florida training industry, with the common good of even more work being available to share out amongst yourselves.
I remember the time when Adrian used to put his efforts into contacting all the flight schools to fight against the first threat of JAA restrictions - that was in the days when I highly respected him....but at the moment???
I do recommend NAC - whenever I'm asked...and I do believe that OVERALL - I say again, OVERALL - they are the best outfit in Florida for JAA PPL training.
If asked for sepcific recommendations - I would suggest Debenair (TIX) for hour building when cost is the main factor, Britannia (GIF) for a JAA PPL if you want lowest price and/or are short of time (no more than three weeks)...and they have a GREAT atmosphere amongst the staff and students...for highly professional training (i.e. first rate JAA rated instructors) for either private or commercial courses my recommendation would be either European Flight Training (FPR) or International Flight Training (SUA). If you want a good centralised touring base then the vote goes to Orlando Flight Training (ISM).
Now - this information is based on my own views at this time and date. It is also based on the facts that I have not mentioned ANY of the "down sides" of any of these operators - each and every one has its own problems....some of them trivial, some of them quite serious (in my view).
Another point to take in mind is that I tell you this information openly, as a Florida based pilot with both JAA and FAA personal connections and flight experience - I do not pretend to be somebody else...say, for example, a private pilot in England when I actually own a flying school in Florida.
If I haven't mentioned anybody it is because I either do not know enough about them or do not recommend them if anybody asks me.
I am not employed by any one of these schools.
I have litle or nothing to gain wherever you guys go for your training - and it p****s me off no end when I hear schools whining about students having gone elsewhere. There is so much work coming across the Atlantic that there is enough for all the schools. What they ought to be doing is banding together to fight the JAA restrictions that are threatened, the Florida statute regulations that are seriously threatened and the bad name that Florida Flight Training gets when they all try to tear each other apart.
For ***'s sake, get together aim for the common good of the student - with the end result of the common good of the Florida training industry, with the common good of even more work being available to share out amongst yourselves.
I remember the time when Adrian used to put his efforts into contacting all the flight schools to fight against the first threat of JAA restrictions - that was in the days when I highly respected him....but at the moment???
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I missed a line out of the above...
If you are doing a JAA PPL level qualification (PPL, Night, IMC and - just maybe, multi) and you want my honest opinion...stay in the UK and do it there!!
And, NO, Query - I do not work for any UK based flying schools either.
If you are doing a JAA PPL level qualification (PPL, Night, IMC and - just maybe, multi) and you want my honest opinion...stay in the UK and do it there!!
And, NO, Query - I do not work for any UK based flying schools either.
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Check out UKFT at Long Beach, CA. They're a good set up and the CFI is a dedicated instructor, with many hours under his belt.
I got my PPL finished there a few years ago.
The guy who runs the ops from the UK is ex Navy and a great chap - always willing to help. And NO this is not a plug - just a personal rec.
Dog.
I got my PPL finished there a few years ago.
The guy who runs the ops from the UK is ex Navy and a great chap - always willing to help. And NO this is not a plug - just a personal rec.
Dog.
