Not in it for the money.
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From: The MCC - Lords
Firstly - I hate this use of e-mails and bulletin points to convey opinion/emotion as it often leads to very different views of what people actually meant. Apologies to MBFC and scroggs, I just got scroggs impression from the first line of his post but that is by the by. I have looked at you other posts and I do concur with you. MBFC - I think it might be best for me not to be able to meet these people in the flesh as it would be highly disappointing. Do people not do research???? When I mentioned putting everybody in the same boat I was referring to the site as a whole not you personally. Apologies
As for meeting these people then they must exist and you are right I do feel very sorry for them as they have such a rose tinted view of the market. I did feel better after posting as it does sometimes feel like people posting replies here think everybody is in the same boat and therefore expect RHS in shiny jet. Sometimes it is diffcult to get the advice you are seeking without the topic being hijacked.
I beleive quite strongly that it is to some extent the responsibility of the schools, CAA and the airlines to ensure there is an accurate view of recruitment and conditions out in the marketplace. Most other sectors do this by making pay etc transparent, why can we not do that. The schools should be approached by the CAA to ensure they comply with all regulation regarding Trading Standards and False advertising. Perhaps it is up to BALPA to assume this mantle. It needs a fine balance for schools to sell their products and not mislead their customers.
Ioan - can I suggest if you are of sound medical stature then you look into a career with the RAF? I would have jumped at the chance years ago if I could. You get some great training and flying and it is a great start to your flying career. As mentioned by those in the know - the airline route is not all it is cracked up to be and you might well have more fun and be better paid (refer to Scroggs comments in this post) by joining the military.
Good luck to everyone in training but I reiterate my desire to see these schools better regulated.
As for meeting these people then they must exist and you are right I do feel very sorry for them as they have such a rose tinted view of the market. I did feel better after posting as it does sometimes feel like people posting replies here think everybody is in the same boat and therefore expect RHS in shiny jet. Sometimes it is diffcult to get the advice you are seeking without the topic being hijacked.
I beleive quite strongly that it is to some extent the responsibility of the schools, CAA and the airlines to ensure there is an accurate view of recruitment and conditions out in the marketplace. Most other sectors do this by making pay etc transparent, why can we not do that. The schools should be approached by the CAA to ensure they comply with all regulation regarding Trading Standards and False advertising. Perhaps it is up to BALPA to assume this mantle. It needs a fine balance for schools to sell their products and not mislead their customers.
Ioan - can I suggest if you are of sound medical stature then you look into a career with the RAF? I would have jumped at the chance years ago if I could. You get some great training and flying and it is a great start to your flying career. As mentioned by those in the know - the airline route is not all it is cracked up to be and you might well have more fun and be better paid (refer to Scroggs comments in this post) by joining the military.
Good luck to everyone in training but I reiterate my desire to see these schools better regulated.
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From: Saaaaaaffffhampton
Realistic
I would like to say , this is a fascinating insight that has not got out of hand like it usually does.
I have just completed my CPL and want to do my FI get some valuable experience in all aspects of handling aircraft, i would love to do air taxi on senecas or navajos and the like, then maybe if i was lucky get into the big boys.
I am realistic and would like every opportunity to get on, but a jet straight away, i think not, but i can dream.
It was said earlier in this threads why do they complain about buying there own type rating, the complaint is that they usually have mortgaged up everything to get where they are and cannot afford the extra £17500 then the accomadation and food, travel etc and still no job at the end, i would imagine thats the reason, I would think that if you pass an apptitude test then complete the type rating and your job is there when you pass, then i suspect people would opt for that route.
Good thread though , and keep going, Congrats to all those that have got the shiney jet, give it a polish for me, i want your seat too
I have just completed my CPL and want to do my FI get some valuable experience in all aspects of handling aircraft, i would love to do air taxi on senecas or navajos and the like, then maybe if i was lucky get into the big boys.
I am realistic and would like every opportunity to get on, but a jet straight away, i think not, but i can dream.
It was said earlier in this threads why do they complain about buying there own type rating, the complaint is that they usually have mortgaged up everything to get where they are and cannot afford the extra £17500 then the accomadation and food, travel etc and still no job at the end, i would imagine thats the reason, I would think that if you pass an apptitude test then complete the type rating and your job is there when you pass, then i suspect people would opt for that route.
Good thread though , and keep going, Congrats to all those that have got the shiney jet, give it a polish for me, i want your seat too
