age verses oz to jaa conversion

[MAXX]

gday all,

have a q?

i am a 36 year old oz atpl qualified pilot with an eu passport due to being born in the uk but lived most of my life in oz.
i have around 5000 hrs total time with 3000+multi crew command on small turbo props,1000+night hrs and 500+ifr hrs and 12 command instrument renewals,also have a usa atp.

i am looking into converting my oz atpl to jaa and trying to find out any information on the requirements and costs associated with doing this.
also some advice weather this may be a waste of time because of my age.

any advice would be greatly appreciated.
(have tried too find out from the caa,and to quote another pprune member,they were about as helpful as an ashtay on a motor bike,however thats not suprising as casa here in oz can be like that aswell)

[stator vane]

this is how i did it

took my logbooks to the CAA battleship building next to Gatwick airport. they took them and my credit card. charged 70 pounds i think it was. kept the logbooks for a couple of weeks and mailed them back and gave me an assessment stating what i had to do. that assessment was only due for one year's time.

i had applied for a JAA licence and they agreed to give me one, but limited to G-plate aircraft. i had to take the air law, human performnce, and a radio telephone lab test. then i would need a sim ride and i would supposedly get the ATPL with a B737 rating attached.

i had over 5000 hours PIC in the B737 and was currently flying at VEX in BRU. on a FAA ATP, which in europe, is about as useful as the ashtray on the space shuttle. presently on leave of absence to get this licence.

still waiting on the sim ride.

also told that if i take all the written tests for the ATPL i will have the UK restriction removed. so i am presently only 4 tests away from that with those 4 to be taken Feb 6th.

still no date on the sim.

cheers;

[Sir Donald]

G'day MAXX,
Best to talk to the CAA, make sure you get written confirmation

ATPL theory modular approx. £2000
14 subjects exam fee £728
Medical £238
Radio operators licence ????? £80
Skills test fee £578
(partial pass )additional £380
Licence issue £176
Plus whatever the sim costs ££££££ if they give you any credit,
otherwise if you have to do an IR, with your experience level approx £5000
Good luck mate and lets us know how you get on.

You
The CAA

[redsnail]

Maxx,
Have a look at Dunnunda and do a search on my name along with JAR ATPL conversion.
The cost depends on what "small turboprop" you flew. If it's a Kingair/Bandit/Twotter it isn't suitable to directly convert your ATPL because it isn't a JAR 25 aircraft.
Your multi crew time is acceptable so long as it was logged under CAO 82.3 rules. (ie 2 pilots were required by law). You MUST get a letter in writing from your employer stating how the multi crew time was logged and the dates of your employ. This verifies your log book and get them to confirm your hours.
If you have this, you can go 2 ways. For the flying, you can do a JAR 25 type rating, eg Shorts 330/360, Dash 8, 737 etc or you can just do an abbreviated IR (15 hours min) and that will give you a CPL. Now, you can convince employers that you don't need an MCC etc because you have enough multi crew time.
Only you can figure out if the cost is worth it.
The cheapest type rating is the Shorts 330/360 at a minimum of 7000 pounds. A 737 rating is about 15,000 pounds.
To reference every thing, search the CAA website and look for GID 25.
If you do your homework you can save yourself 70 pounds and the risk of sending your log book to the CAA.