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Old 8th Jan 2003, 11:42
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Co-pilot newsletter

Does anyone have any contact details for the Co-pilot newsletter?

The following from AVASP:

Copilot Newsletter (£74.95 Annually)
Tel: ++ 44 (0)1903-879910
Fax: N/A

is wrong - the phone number is for a florists who are sick of getting calls for Co-pilot!

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Old 8th Jan 2003, 11:50
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Web Address...

Hi Foggy,

Their web address is www.copilotpublications.co.uk

Been thinking of subscribing meself, but would like to know if the info they can provide is any better than that already available through IPA before committing... any thoughts anyone?

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Old 8th Jan 2003, 13:01
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The cost of the Co-Pilot subscription is nothing compared to the cost of the flying training, about the same as ten minutes in a PA34. I would suggest any source of information is well worth having after putting all that effort in to get the licence.
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Thanks guys!

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Is there anyone who can give me more info on IPA and BALPA?

Website, contact info....?


Thanx.....



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Old 13th Jan 2003, 17:46
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IPA and BALPA

http://www.ipapilot.com/

and

http://www.balpa.org

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Old 13th Jan 2003, 20:10
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Has anyone here subscribed to Co-Pilot Newsletter. Is it worth subscribing to CPN, in addition to IPA and, of course, BALPA? Does it give any additional information, in such a thin market? Or is it a further list of the same info?

Any body able to give further advice?
 
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I sent off my application form for CoPilot Newsletter last Friday. I have read on previous PPrune threads that the publication is excellent and well worth the money.

If you consider you can get all 3 for the price of 1 hour in a Cessna (or thereabouts) they cannot be considered expensive for a prospective Airline Pilot.

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Old 14th Jan 2003, 10:06
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F3, you should look for a different PA34! It sounds expensive
Seriously though, £81 for Co-Pilot might not sound a lot in the grand scheme of things, but for someone who has hardly got £2 for a sandwich, it's a lot.
Is it worth abusing my credit card further?
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Old 14th Jan 2003, 11:46
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My new pack arrived today, so I have not had time to read it all yet but the info looks great. All UK Commercial Pilot Employers are listed.

Address
Tel / Fax
Contact name
services
Fleet
Pilots employed
Avg time to Command
Bases
Min Quals
Union
Prospects
Remarks (eg one says :- does not reply to cv's)

So the answer to unemployed pilots, or pilots looking for a move it is will worth the £81

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Old 14th Jan 2003, 13:09
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Agreed it is worth the money UNLESS you are already a member of IPA (probably also BALPA), which provides pretty much the same information via its website.

I guess you could decide to subscribe to both (or even all three), but why chuck any more money away (than we already have!)

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Thanks a bunch Dave!!

I really appreciate you reply!


Regards


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Old 14th Jan 2003, 23:38
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Quite right Go Around, 13 Mins in a PA34! I thought Co Pilot was still £60 ish, but still worth having at £81.
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My new pack arrived today, so I have not had time to read it all yet but the info looks great. All UK Commercial Pilot Employers are listed.

Address
Tel / Fax
Contact name
services
Fleet
Pilots employed
Avg time to Command
Bases
Min Quals
Union
Prospects
Remarks (eg one says :- does not reply to cv's)
So in other words, all you are getting for your 81 quid is a duplicate of everything that ppjn.com provides for free, or the IPA provides for a fiver?

I'd rather spend my money on that extra 10 minutes in the Seneca, at least I would be 10 minutes more employable at the end of it
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Old 15th Jan 2003, 08:00
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I think you will find that the IPA is nearer £50 than a fiver and the rest of your reply is not worth replying to.
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This REALLY IS A RUMOUR NETWORK, nicht wahr?

IPA membership costs £20 pa for ATPL students

Not £5.

Not £50.

Drop in the ocean
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Old 17th Jan 2003, 07:22
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Hey dmdrewitt, if you fancy a rational argument then you can bring it on any time sonny boy, you might as well STFU with the smug little put downs though because they're water off a duck's back to me. Or are you just p!ssed off that you spent the 81 quid and THEN found out you could have had all that gen for free?

My point really is, that back in the days before PPRuNe and the internet and all the other wonderful resources we have at our fingertips, it was probably an absolute bargain to pay 81 quid and get an up to date CV mailing list and a bit of gossip about who might be hiring. However the times have well and truly changed, lets be honest there is ****** all that Co-pilot can tell us these days that we couldn't have found out weeks before by keeping an eye on PPRuNe, PPJN, Flight International and the other free job search pages.
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Luke, calm down lad! You want a fight, do it outside.

Have to say that you have a point, though. Before Pprune, Co-Pilot was by far the best source of rumour and news for jobseekers. Their job seminars were excellent as well, but I haven't heard of one happening for a while. BALPA has for some years held similar job seminars, and I understand that they're pretty good value too. BALPA also gives you a great deal of info about the industry in general, including insight into what issues are excercising pilot groups in the various affiliated airlines (and they're not necessarily the ones you read about on Pprune!). I'm not a member of the IPA, so I can't comment on what they offer.

There is, obviously, a great deal of info to be had here on Pprune. There's plenty more elsewhere on the 'net. But I still recommend you join BALPA or the IPA for the inside info. Co-pilot may still be relevant, but I haven't seen anything they've produced for some time. Certainly BALPA and the IPA are cheaper! I can't see any point in joining all three, but I'm willing to believe those who have and think they've had value for money.

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Well what I did was join forces with 2 fellow Wannabes at the time who lived nearby. We ensured that we were each in seperate organisations and we shared any info that came our way.

Needs must when your penniless and training.

I am often suprised that Wannabes do not seek each other out at all. Perhaps it was easier for me because there weren't that many people in my particular valley who wanted to fly professionally. Plus its quite easy to work out that "Dai the airport" has an aviation connection...

Do a bit of digging around and you might just find a couple of people in the same boat as you that live just around the corner.

It helps to have some to bitch about the CAA with over a pint.

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