Unfortunate mishap HELP!
Joined: Feb 2001
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From: South East
If you have one, put the heading bug on the runway heading , or line up the CDI bar on the runway. Then if its not at the top its not the right runway.
As for making mistakes, god I fly everyday for an airline, and everyday a mistake is made. The important thing is to learn by them. A clever pilot learns by his own mistakes whereas a wise pilot learns from others mistakes. Your helping everyone learn from yours so dont worry you wont do it again, you will make others , just learn by them.
I once had to point out to the captain that he was on finals to the wrong runway! No names no packdrill!!
As for making mistakes, god I fly everyday for an airline, and everyday a mistake is made. The important thing is to learn by them. A clever pilot learns by his own mistakes whereas a wise pilot learns from others mistakes. Your helping everyone learn from yours so dont worry you wont do it again, you will make others , just learn by them.
I once had to point out to the captain that he was on finals to the wrong runway! No names no packdrill!!
Joined: Mar 1999
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From: UK
Oh yes, and on the subject of navigation c*ck ups, this one will make you laugh.
First solo X-C for this particular student pilot, who is an officer in the RAF. Route is something like KGIF-KX06-KBOW-KGIF. Out of KX06, heading north to KBOW (Bartow), he thinks 'must avoid Lake Placid MOA'. Of course, the inevidable happens and he completely overflies this huge military base. Realising his mistake, he flies the length of the runway, waggling the wings as he passes the TWR, calls lost on 121.5, flies a circuit and lands.
Fire engine comes up to him after landing, doing the follow me thing. He reports to the briefing office and gets a b*llocking. Fortunately he gets less of a b*llocking because he's RAF. Unfornuately for him, he's an RAF Navigator!!!!!
First solo X-C for this particular student pilot, who is an officer in the RAF. Route is something like KGIF-KX06-KBOW-KGIF. Out of KX06, heading north to KBOW (Bartow), he thinks 'must avoid Lake Placid MOA'. Of course, the inevidable happens and he completely overflies this huge military base. Realising his mistake, he flies the length of the runway, waggling the wings as he passes the TWR, calls lost on 121.5, flies a circuit and lands.
Fire engine comes up to him after landing, doing the follow me thing. He reports to the briefing office and gets a b*llocking. Fortunately he gets less of a b*llocking because he's RAF. Unfornuately for him, he's an RAF Navigator!!!!!
Joined: Oct 2000
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From: Rutland, UK
Been there....done that. I was flying at night into Ocala, FL. The panel lights were poor, and i could not see the top of the DI so i maintained the reciprocal heading at the bottom of the DI which was illuminatted much clearer. I had been following this for an hour and began to make calls for a straight in approach. Didn't realise until finals that it wasn't 18 i was heading for but 36. A horrible feeling, but you really do learn from it.
Joined: Aug 2000
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From: cambridge uk
dont worry about it i have learnt more from my mistakes than most other sources, and it tends to be a lot quicker too!
Dont be ashamed to admit your errors and talk about them, sure its embarassing in the macho clubhouse or briefing room environment etc...
The guys who keep schtum always end up in the biggest kerfuffles, history proves that.
Keep smiling theres a lot of people here who have done worse
I on the other hand am waiting for my glorious day..... i pray it never comes.
Dont be ashamed to admit your errors and talk about them, sure its embarassing in the macho clubhouse or briefing room environment etc...
The guys who keep schtum always end up in the biggest kerfuffles, history proves that.
Keep smiling theres a lot of people here who have done worse
I on the other hand am waiting for my glorious day..... i pray it never comes.
Joined: May 1999
Aviation Qualifications: ATP+Mil
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From: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Summer of '76. I was pottering back from a low-level trip around Wales at 250' and 420 kts inbound to Brawdy. Lovely day, you could see for miles. Spotted the landmark which was the initial point for that RW, called 'Initials', pushed the power up to make a decent 'blue note' on the run in........
Except it wasn't. It was a church on the extended centreline of RW22 at Withybush. I can still see the numbers in my mind as I tweaked back on the control column and shot up to 2001' a.g.l. just avoiding their ATZ. Brawdy ATC and another pair of Hunters said they couldn't see me; fortunately I managed to bluff that I was 'repositioning behind the other traffic'......and no-one at Haverfordwest ever complained. But they must have wondered why a single Hunter had seemingly just conducted a high speed flypast without talking to them!
I guess many people have made the mistake of approaching one aerodrome whilst talking to another. As did the boss of a Gnat squadron who told his student to get a grip when diverting to Shawbury. "Look, there it is. Can't you see the ruddy place, lad" he said, taking control to land. At Sleap......!!
Except it wasn't. It was a church on the extended centreline of RW22 at Withybush. I can still see the numbers in my mind as I tweaked back on the control column and shot up to 2001' a.g.l. just avoiding their ATZ. Brawdy ATC and another pair of Hunters said they couldn't see me; fortunately I managed to bluff that I was 'repositioning behind the other traffic'......and no-one at Haverfordwest ever complained. But they must have wondered why a single Hunter had seemingly just conducted a high speed flypast without talking to them!
I guess many people have made the mistake of approaching one aerodrome whilst talking to another. As did the boss of a Gnat squadron who told his student to get a grip when diverting to Shawbury. "Look, there it is. Can't you see the ruddy place, lad" he said, taking control to land. At Sleap......!!
