Hour building in the UK
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Hour building in the UK
Hi - want to build hours to the 150 required for CPL practical - constrained to UK due to family commitments, anybody know of any good deals on bulk buying hours (Pref PA-28) from schools, clubs or privately owned 'planes ?
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Try Tatenhill Aviation at Tatenhill Airfield in Staffordshire. Their Rrates are generally very competitive & they may do a deal on a block of hours paid for in advance.
Tel 01283 575283 ask for Mike Shelton
or visit their website www.tatenhill-aviation.co.uk and click on "learn to fly" then "aircraft"
Tel 01283 575283 ask for Mike Shelton
or visit their website www.tatenhill-aviation.co.uk and click on "learn to fly" then "aircraft"
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Try www.cafs-wales.co.uk they offer block hours building on PA38 PA28-161 and 28R. BAsed at Cardiff Airport.
Good luck.
Good luck.
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Other options include owning a share in an A/c.
At White Waltham a share in an turbulent type aircraft can be had for £600 and flying costs £6/hour. Its cheap but its hard cold alfresco flying. Cherokee shares go for £2000 and up for £40-50/hour.
Whatever you do don't fly round in circles. Go places go to new airports, go to Frnace and the channel islands.They have cheap fuel and duty drawback. Do a night rating, do some taildragger flying, Cambridge rent Tiger moths at about the same rate as a PA28. Set an aim such as landing at exery airfield in the south (or north) of england. Use all of the Atco services , don't be afraid of them like some pilots seem to be. Have confidence getting through airspace like luton and southampton. Practice a PFL every time you go up.Remember to get the 300nm flight in as well.
Whatever you do have fun and make your logbook (and flying) look interesting.
At White Waltham a share in an turbulent type aircraft can be had for £600 and flying costs £6/hour. Its cheap but its hard cold alfresco flying. Cherokee shares go for £2000 and up for £40-50/hour.
Whatever you do don't fly round in circles. Go places go to new airports, go to Frnace and the channel islands.They have cheap fuel and duty drawback. Do a night rating, do some taildragger flying, Cambridge rent Tiger moths at about the same rate as a PA28. Set an aim such as landing at exery airfield in the south (or north) of england. Use all of the Atco services , don't be afraid of them like some pilots seem to be. Have confidence getting through airspace like luton and southampton. Practice a PFL every time you go up.Remember to get the 300nm flight in as well.
Whatever you do have fun and make your logbook (and flying) look interesting.
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Welshpool flying school was hiring out Tomahawks at £55 per hour wet and no landing fees a year or so ago. Cheapest deal I ever saw with no strings. I *think* the owner still has a 152 which is £5 per hour cheaper.
Call Caroline on 01938 555062.
Good luck,
WWW
Call Caroline on 01938 555062.
Good luck,
WWW
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If you've done some gliding you may be able to get some free hours flying a tow plane at a gliding club. Doesn't involve much cross country work but is good for T/O and landings. Doubt there are any PA28 tugs though! Still, you might get to fly a real aeroplane with a stick!
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I was also goin to suggest getting a share in an a/c, but you might find there are some who might not want to commit to letting you do 150 hours or so in a short time as they may feel it will limit their own access to the aircraft. Then again there my be some who would welcome a few hours outting on the airframe to reduce the impact of their fixed costs. Just something to bear in mind.
Would also endorse what was said earlier about making the most use of the time. Go on a round-Britain trip or something. Nothing worse than 100 x 1-2 hour local flights in the log book. I'm not a professional logbook reader but if I came across 150 hours of local flying I wouldn't think you had much get up and go.
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Would also endorse what was said earlier about making the most use of the time. Go on a round-Britain trip or something. Nothing worse than 100 x 1-2 hour local flights in the log book. I'm not a professional logbook reader but if I came across 150 hours of local flying I wouldn't think you had much get up and go.
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To 'the Man formely known as'
hi i wondered if you have any details on the 'turbulent type' at White Waltham, i too have uk constrictions and would very much appreciate any help on cheaper h building.
ps also have an RAF irvin too!
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hi i wondered if you have any details on the 'turbulent type' at White Waltham, i too have uk constrictions and would very much appreciate any help on cheaper h building.
ps also have an RAF irvin too!
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I paid £42.50 UKP per hour fully incl at Teesside in 97. This was the NVQ hay day though. (100 hr block, including NVQ 24 % disc)
Find a school where you can use a classroom. Go in every day. If the weather is good, fly. If not study. Worked for me !
Find a school where you can use a classroom. Go in every day. If the weather is good, fly. If not study. Worked for me !
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Tuck,
Gengis is right it is a Jodel D9 (known as Noddy). There are another couple of a/c there with similar running costs with a high wing the - type escapes me.
Anyway they all seem to cost about £600 per share £6 per hour running costs and a monthly fee to cover hangaring (about £30). Lots of pilots have used them for hour building. It is all type A flying.
Look at the notice board at WW there is almost always one share in one of them for sale. If you can't get down there Give WW ops a ring 01628 823 272. If they have a spare moment they might look at the board for you. ( Its pissing down now they are bound to be bored). Failing that call up the group chairman (ops may give you the relevant names) I am sure someone will sell in the near future.
Whatever an Irvine will be the least requirement to survive more than 20 minutes in the windtunnel of a cockpit they have. It must be like the old days of flying.
Good luck.
Gengis is right it is a Jodel D9 (known as Noddy). There are another couple of a/c there with similar running costs with a high wing the - type escapes me.
Anyway they all seem to cost about £600 per share £6 per hour running costs and a monthly fee to cover hangaring (about £30). Lots of pilots have used them for hour building. It is all type A flying.
Look at the notice board at WW there is almost always one share in one of them for sale. If you can't get down there Give WW ops a ring 01628 823 272. If they have a spare moment they might look at the board for you. ( Its pissing down now they are bound to be bored). Failing that call up the group chairman (ops may give you the relevant names) I am sure someone will sell in the near future.
Whatever an Irvine will be the least requirement to survive more than 20 minutes in the windtunnel of a cockpit they have. It must be like the old days of flying.
Good luck.
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Requirements for glider towing vary from club to club, but generally you have to be a current glider pilot or have a reasonable amount of previous gliding experience. Many clubs will specify something like bronze gliding certificate and 100hr TT power (including taildragger time if they use taildraggers which most do). In any case, you will have to join the club (for insurance reasons amongst others) and do a bit of 2 up to learn the ropes. Gliding clubs tend to rely on teamwork and people mucking in so its not a good idea to expect free flying unless you're prepared to put some work back in. Towing is good fun and gliding clubs often have some interesting aeroplanes to fly (Chipmunks, Cubs, Jodels etc). Gliding is great too of course. Hope that covers it.
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Requirements for glider towing vary from club to club, but generally you have to be a current glider pilot or have a reasonable amount of previous gliding experience. Many clubs will specify something like bronze gliding certificate and 100hr TT power (including taildragger time if they use taildraggers which most do). In any case, you will have to join the club (for insurance reasons amongst others) and do a bit of 2 up to learn the ropes. Gliding clubs tend to rely on teamwork and people mucking in so its not a good idea to expect free flying unless you're prepared to put some work back in. Towing is good fun and gliding clubs often have some interesting aeroplanes to fly (Chipmunks, Cubs, Jodels etc). Gliding is great too of course. Hope that covers it.
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Mr Tuck et al,
There are about 5 single seat, open cockpit aircraft at White Waltham. Two are privately owned, but three have shares available ranging from £600 to £1200. They are very basic, but also very cheep and the best fun for your money available. Realistically you would be looking at more like £15 per hour all in, but that's not bad for the amount of fun available. They are weight limited but that shouldn't be a problem for most people. If anybody requires further details e-mail me as I know people in each group and there are often shares available.
There are about 5 single seat, open cockpit aircraft at White Waltham. Two are privately owned, but three have shares available ranging from £600 to £1200. They are very basic, but also very cheep and the best fun for your money available. Realistically you would be looking at more like £15 per hour all in, but that's not bad for the amount of fun available. They are weight limited but that shouldn't be a problem for most people. If anybody requires further details e-mail me as I know people in each group and there are often shares available.
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Thanks Dan Dare, I was running out of steam on this one.
Mr Tuck,
The other A/c I couldn't remember the name of was a Luton Minor, great fun I am told (you won't beleive it flies).
You can hour build in these, when I said type A aircraft I meant things like pipers and cessnas. It all counts. Fortunately the days when you had to do 700 hours in them is now gone.
Point me at the sky.
TMFKA
Mr Tuck,
The other A/c I couldn't remember the name of was a Luton Minor, great fun I am told (you won't beleive it flies).
You can hour build in these, when I said type A aircraft I meant things like pipers and cessnas. It all counts. Fortunately the days when you had to do 700 hours in them is now gone.
Point me at the sky.
TMFKA
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No one has mentioned Old Sarum yet. It sounds like a good option. You join thier frequent flyer scheme and get acess to C150 @ £50hr, Warrior/C172 @ £60hr and ArrowII @ £70hr and a bulldog @ £90. It all works out cheapest if you do more than about 45 hours per year. I am looking at it myself as it offers good flexibility and diversity at reasonable costs.
