you DO NOT need a visa to train in USA!
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From: Craggy Island
you DO NOT need a visa to train in USA!
Having just read the thread on visas for the US i can say that most of it is wrong. Right now myself and two guys doing hour building and CPL are sitting here in sunny Florida. On the way over two of us where stopped by immigration, in Dublin and UK and after explaining truthfully what we where doing both got through. Not only that but the immigration man told me that quite a few people have come through the airport recently on visa waviers on the way to the US for JAR training.
Also, if people want to check the FAA FAR/AIM they would see that JAR instructors are allowed to sign people off for solo's and cross-countries
Also, if people want to check the FAA FAR/AIM they would see that JAR instructors are allowed to sign people off for solo's and cross-countries
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From: Florida, USA
Fr. Dougal.
Welcome to Pprune.
Your first post, I notice. You are sitting in sunny Florida, with an Irish registration, doing a JAA professional licence, saying that you do not need a visa?
Say "Hi" to Steven Fisher for me. Enjoy the course.
Welcome to Pprune.
Your first post, I notice. You are sitting in sunny Florida, with an Irish registration, doing a JAA professional licence, saying that you do not need a visa?
Say "Hi" to Steven Fisher for me. Enjoy the course.
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Is it just me , or do you two give the impression that you really know each other ?
Clearly one of you has an axe to grind regarding certain 'establishments' in Florida and the other seems to be some sort of reaction to this ......
Instead of trying to discredit each other , put your cards on the table , reveal your hidden agendas ??
Of course I could have the wrong end of the stick ??
Come on WWW ....... moderate !!!
The reputation of Pprune is being destroyed by petty vendettas.
Clearly one of you has an axe to grind regarding certain 'establishments' in Florida and the other seems to be some sort of reaction to this ......
Instead of trying to discredit each other , put your cards on the table , reveal your hidden agendas ??
Of course I could have the wrong end of the stick ??
Come on WWW ....... moderate !!!
The reputation of Pprune is being destroyed by petty vendettas.
HERE WE GO! 
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From: Florida, USA
Barry - yes, you are right - you do have the wrong end of the stick.
...and I meant everything I said - I truly do hope he/she enjoys the course - despite anything else - Captain Fisher does have an excellent reputation for quality of flight training from the examiners that go there.
...and I meant everything I said - I truly do hope he/she enjoys the course - despite anything else - Captain Fisher does have an excellent reputation for quality of flight training from the examiners that go there.
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I am still trying to work out how Barry got the wrong end of the stick! post seemed OK to me.
I am sat out in Long Beach at the mo hour building, security at LAX was non-exsistent when I flew in, less than when they werent paranoid.
The weather here has been absolutely crap, which has been great for using my IR rating, came back from Palm Springs from Van Nuys into Long beach at 12000ft. It was lovely on top but with tops at 5500 and base at 2000 the descent was pretty interesting as they kept me at 4000 in the crap for most of it!
Who said flying in the US is easy.........?
I am sat out in Long Beach at the mo hour building, security at LAX was non-exsistent when I flew in, less than when they werent paranoid.
The weather here has been absolutely crap, which has been great for using my IR rating, came back from Palm Springs from Van Nuys into Long beach at 12000ft. It was lovely on top but with tops at 5500 and base at 2000 the descent was pretty interesting as they kept me at 4000 in the crap for most of it!
Who said flying in the US is easy.........?
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Fr Dougal
Also, if people want to check the FAA FAR/AIM they would see that JAR instructors are allowed to sign people off for solo's and cross-countries
Where does it say that in the FARs? Are you claiming you can do this under 61.41?
61.41 (b) says
It doesn't say he is authorised to give endorsements allowing student pilot solos.
An 'authorized instructor' is defined in 61.1(b)(2). Are there DEs out there accepting solo/X-country endorsements given by non FAA instructors?
Also, if people want to check the FAA FAR/AIM they would see that JAR instructors are allowed to sign people off for solo's and cross-countries
Where does it say that in the FARs? Are you claiming you can do this under 61.41?
61.41 (b) says
A flight instructor described in paragraph (a) of this section is only authorized to give endorsements to show training given.
An 'authorized instructor' is defined in 61.1(b)(2). Are there DEs out there accepting solo/X-country endorsements given by non FAA instructors?
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From: Craggy Island
there is no hard feelings meant to anyone i just wanted to say to people that i am here with no visa and told the truth to the people in immigration so who says you need a visa is not being honest. I was stopped in Dublin and the immigration officer said it would be touch and go if i got a visa wavier. After talking to the boss they produced a letter from the US Embassy in London stating that you don't need a visa if your going to the US for JAR training.
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From: europe
post this letter if you have it! if you enter in the USA to study for more 15h/week, you need a student visa.JAA or FAA.
type of training doesnt make any difference but the reason of your visit in the USA makes the difference.If you come as a tourist you need a visa or visa waiver, as a busimessman you need an other visa. ask the US embassy before coming in the States.
type of training doesnt make any difference but the reason of your visit in the USA makes the difference.If you come as a tourist you need a visa or visa waiver, as a busimessman you need an other visa. ask the US embassy before coming in the States.
