Age and getting a FO position??
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Age and getting a FO position??
Hi,
Just wondered if there is anyone on pprune who is 19-20 and is a FO?
Another thing is that if an airline was looking for a FO and both had exactly the same experience flying wise say 250-300 hours, who would they take if one was 20 and the other say 32?
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Just wondered if there is anyone on pprune who is 19-20 and is a FO?
Another thing is that if an airline was looking for a FO and both had exactly the same experience flying wise say 250-300 hours, who would they take if one was 20 and the other say 32?
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As an example, in the latest Britannia criteria :
Under 30, U only need 200TT to apply.
Over 30, U need 1500TT.
& yes there are 767 Captains who are under 30. The youngest I've seen so far is 27 & works for Lauda Air.
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Under 30, U only need 200TT to apply.
Over 30, U need 1500TT.
& yes there are 767 Captains who are under 30. The youngest I've seen so far is 27 & works for Lauda Air.
MF
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Thats interesting, so i guess being younger can have its advantages then?
How many years roughly does it take to get from FO to Captain with someone like Britannia?
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How many years roughly does it take to get from FO to Captain with someone like Britannia?
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I think all the youth 'thing' is (in most cases- perhaps not all) a load of bollox!
At the school I am at you constantly hear all the chat about why the 30 somethings stand a better chance at the airline game than a young gun 21 year old like myself. The amounts of times I have had to bite my lip when i have heard someone say...'well no offence or anything.. you're only young aren't you, and airlines these days would rather take on some one a little older someone like me who's lived a little and has life experience!!!' CRAP!!! Or is it?!!! I have always thought and got the general impression that as long as your face fits, you have the licence, and can make an MD or a chief pilot realise you'll be an asset to the company then you stand as good a chance as any? Helped only if you've been brown nosing and forging contacts etc. Can anybody correct me or back me up as I'm sure all of us graduating with a frozen CPL IR and minimal hours will stand an equal chance?.....
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At the school I am at you constantly hear all the chat about why the 30 somethings stand a better chance at the airline game than a young gun 21 year old like myself. The amounts of times I have had to bite my lip when i have heard someone say...'well no offence or anything.. you're only young aren't you, and airlines these days would rather take on some one a little older someone like me who's lived a little and has life experience!!!' CRAP!!! Or is it?!!! I have always thought and got the general impression that as long as your face fits, you have the licence, and can make an MD or a chief pilot realise you'll be an asset to the company then you stand as good a chance as any? Helped only if you've been brown nosing and forging contacts etc. Can anybody correct me or back me up as I'm sure all of us graduating with a frozen CPL IR and minimal hours will stand an equal chance?.....
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Just to turn the tables. I know a chap in his mid-50s who has just got his first job.
Don't tell me it can't be done!
MG
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Don't tell me it can't be done!
MG
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I struggled at 19 to get my first commercial job ,I think a lot of companies thought that was too young , but as I hit 20 got interviewed and subsequently first T/P job. Then on the 757 / 767 at the age of 22.
Basically I found that my age helped ! I haven't had it confirmed yet though !!
Basically I found that my age helped ! I haven't had it confirmed yet though !!
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I was lucky to get my first Turboprop job a week after my 21st birthday. I flew it for a year and was lucky again to get my present job on the B757-200/300 at 22. I am now 23, (as of 2 days ago. 
) The key thing I think is maturity. You can be in your 30's but not as mature as someone in their 20's. I felt no ageism towards myself at all. The other guys on my course, some were in their 40's.
Eff Oh
) The key thing I think is maturity. You can be in your 30's but not as mature as someone in their 20's. I felt no ageism towards myself at all. The other guys on my course, some were in their 40's. Eff Oh
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OK So where do I stand. Ozzy , 39yrs old 700 TT, degree in aviation, ME IR.Have worked in an airline for 7 years (not flying unfortunately)
How do I get these jobs. From the posts I have been reading they sound as if they are crying out for guys like me.
Problem is converting the damn licence to the CAA equivalent. Any ideas?
How do I get these jobs. From the posts I have been reading they sound as if they are crying out for guys like me.
Problem is converting the damn licence to the CAA equivalent. Any ideas?
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To join Air France, the Total Time required depends on your age. Here's the latest scale :
If U were born :
- in January 1969 or after : no minimum (French ME CPL-IR will do)
- between Jan 65 & Dec 68 : 1000+
- between Jan 63 & Dec 64 : 2000+
- between Jan 60 & Dec 62 : 3000+
- between Jan 56 & Dec 59 : 3500+
However, these minima may B lowered (@ HR's discretion, I understand) if U hold a TR on one of the "entry class" aircrafts (A320 or B737).
MF
If U were born :
- in January 1969 or after : no minimum (French ME CPL-IR will do)
- between Jan 65 & Dec 68 : 1000+
- between Jan 63 & Dec 64 : 2000+
- between Jan 60 & Dec 62 : 3000+
- between Jan 56 & Dec 59 : 3500+
However, these minima may B lowered (@ HR's discretion, I understand) if U hold a TR on one of the "entry class" aircrafts (A320 or B737).
MF
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Hey all, thanks for replying, however now I am in two minds as to what to do. I am 19 at the moment and am about to start my ATPL's. I have 160 hours total with my PPL, so straight after my ground school will be looking at progressing to my CPL, but then i don't know whether to risk it and do my IR and start applying, or to get my FI and look for a job instructing for a bit. With the replies so far it looks as though being young can help, any opinions or suggestions?
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