UK or EASA
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UK or EASA
RTW in both places. ATPLS complete for both.
I’ve tallied it up and it would be roughly the same amount considering I’ve got a UK PPL and IRR.
I don’t think I could do both in the UK, I have too many other financial commitments due.
I have lived almost all my life in the UK, would like to continue to work here, at least initially. Have a family here (they can’t relocate).
My only concern is how many more jobs are available in the EU compared to the UK.
Maybe do UK first then couple of years later convert to EASA?
I’ve tallied it up and it would be roughly the same amount considering I’ve got a UK PPL and IRR.
I don’t think I could do both in the UK, I have too many other financial commitments due.
I have lived almost all my life in the UK, would like to continue to work here, at least initially. Have a family here (they can’t relocate).
My only concern is how many more jobs are available in the EU compared to the UK.
Maybe do UK first then couple of years later convert to EASA?
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Many jobs in Europe require proficiency in the local language as well as English (plus the licence and the RTW). That's something to factor in.
If you have a family that can't locate, then sounds like the UK licence is the way forward.
If you have a family that can't locate, then sounds like the UK licence is the way forward.
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The dual-licence route would help with Ryanair (although they seem to have their own training programmes), SAS's LHR base, some corporate operators, plus specialist companies like 2Excel and DEA Aviation. If you're happy to live and work in Ireland it opens up Aer Lingus, ASL, Emerald Airways' Irish AOC and possibly a few others.
EASA in the UK adds a few thousand pounds but it's not like you have to do everything twice. Apart from the likes of FTE Jerez, I don't know of many places that do dual-licence training abroad.
As for the UK, the tricky bit is finding a modular training school which isn't at the other end of the country, options are as follows:
Stapleford: I did hear though that dual-licence training was under review there due to cost and the option to train part-time appears somewhat limited, I believe most of their students are full-time.
British Aerobatic Academy: Generally focused on aerobatics but they do dual CPL/ME/IR. Grass airfield with no ILS so MEIR with low vis etc. would be a challenge and I believe they only have one twin.
Aviation South West: Maltese licence, I'm not entirely sure how that would mesh with Austro Control exams, assuming you've sat Austro Control exams of course.
Flight Training London: The last time I spoke to them only the ME/IR was EASA-approved so you'd have to do the CPL elsewhere, could end up falling foul of BA's Max 3 ATOs rule (assuming it still exists).
ACS Perth: Great if you live in Scotland but otherwise a bit far.
Ravenair: I've heard the waiting list is very long.
Leading Edge: Not many people on here have positive things to say.
The other option of course is to do CAA-only flight training and get 1500 hours, though you might have to resit some EASA exams if you can't get those hours in three years.
If any info I've posted here is incorrect or outdated, please feel free to correct me. Likewise, I'd be interested to know what other people's views are since I'm in a not hugely dissimilar position to the OP but cost isn't an issue and I don't have family commitments.
EASA in the UK adds a few thousand pounds but it's not like you have to do everything twice. Apart from the likes of FTE Jerez, I don't know of many places that do dual-licence training abroad.
As for the UK, the tricky bit is finding a modular training school which isn't at the other end of the country, options are as follows:
Stapleford: I did hear though that dual-licence training was under review there due to cost and the option to train part-time appears somewhat limited, I believe most of their students are full-time.
British Aerobatic Academy: Generally focused on aerobatics but they do dual CPL/ME/IR. Grass airfield with no ILS so MEIR with low vis etc. would be a challenge and I believe they only have one twin.
Aviation South West: Maltese licence, I'm not entirely sure how that would mesh with Austro Control exams, assuming you've sat Austro Control exams of course.
Flight Training London: The last time I spoke to them only the ME/IR was EASA-approved so you'd have to do the CPL elsewhere, could end up falling foul of BA's Max 3 ATOs rule (assuming it still exists).
ACS Perth: Great if you live in Scotland but otherwise a bit far.
Ravenair: I've heard the waiting list is very long.
Leading Edge: Not many people on here have positive things to say.
The other option of course is to do CAA-only flight training and get 1500 hours, though you might have to resit some EASA exams if you can't get those hours in three years.
If any info I've posted here is incorrect or outdated, please feel free to correct me. Likewise, I'd be interested to know what other people's views are since I'm in a not hugely dissimilar position to the OP but cost isn't an issue and I don't have family commitments.
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https://tae.aero/courses/icao-to-eas...ersion-course/
If this is true, it’s quite easy and cheap to convert to EASA?
Btw,
FTL: v expensive rates
Aviation SW : didn’t bother replying to me, also extremely far
Ravenair: refused to credit my IRR hours, want sim hours no doubt because the overheads are pretty much 0 so taking my business elsewhere
BAA: yet to contact them
ACS : too far
stapleford: yet to contact but seems focused on people doing their program
Im true modular so i’ll go where i feel is best. I might do each course at a different place. I think for BA they are only interested in where you did the PPL,MEIR,CPL. You can do IRR and SEIR and not bother mentioning the schools.
If this is true, it’s quite easy and cheap to convert to EASA?
Btw,
FTL: v expensive rates
Aviation SW : didn’t bother replying to me, also extremely far
Ravenair: refused to credit my IRR hours, want sim hours no doubt because the overheads are pretty much 0 so taking my business elsewhere
BAA: yet to contact them
ACS : too far
stapleford: yet to contact but seems focused on people doing their program
Im true modular so i’ll go where i feel is best. I might do each course at a different place. I think for BA they are only interested in where you did the PPL,MEIR,CPL. You can do IRR and SEIR and not bother mentioning the schools.
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