War with Irak!!!!!!!
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Pilot16, is the 16 your age or IQ? Who do you think is responsible for the deaths of millions of Iraqi's and their neighbours, the USA?Hussain could comply with UN resolutions and give his people one of the highest standards of living in the world. So why doesn't he ? Who killed millions in a war with Iran? Has tried chemical weapons on his own subjects? Invaded Kuwait? Murders opponents without any qualms? Could it be that he is a very wicked and evil man who wants to rule or destroy the world? If so should we let him in the interests of peace, justice and freedom and of course your job.
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Seriph,
The man you describe is a manufactured tyrant, a puppet of the US. If he committed any crimes he more than likely done it with the permission of the US at some point. Bear in mind, all that you say about him is not true just because you or the West say so. One thing we in the West are good at is demonizing our enemies. Read for example the interview with Yvonne Ridley, the journo who got captured by the Taleban.
The man you describe is a manufactured tyrant, a puppet of the US. If he committed any crimes he more than likely done it with the permission of the US at some point. Bear in mind, all that you say about him is not true just because you or the West say so. One thing we in the West are good at is demonizing our enemies. Read for example the interview with Yvonne Ridley, the journo who got captured by the Taleban.
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All very interesting chaps but not really appropriate to this forum. By all means go discuss Mr Hussein and the wider geo-political issues on Jet Blast or Non Aviation forums.
Try: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...threadid=65904
And read this first: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...786332,00.html
The impact on the airline hiring market is a valid discussion here though.
WWW
Try: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...threadid=65904
And read this first: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...786332,00.html
The impact on the airline hiring market is a valid discussion here though.
WWW
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Why was my last post deleted? I was making some important points about OPEC and the oil price fixing.
Can a moderator tell me why my post was deleted please?
Can a moderator tell me why my post was deleted please?
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Wedge
The reason is in the PM I sent to you when I deleted your post. A post which contained nothing about Wannabes or the effects on the aviation industry. Just more political and economic viewpoints.
You posted this after I twice said that we were not here to discuss anything other than in the context of Wannabes. You did not heed that and seem to think that you can dictate the site policy and are above moderation somehow. This is now stated for a third time by WWW above.
It won't be stated for a fourth time, I can assure you.
The reason is in the PM I sent to you when I deleted your post. A post which contained nothing about Wannabes or the effects on the aviation industry. Just more political and economic viewpoints.
You posted this after I twice said that we were not here to discuss anything other than in the context of Wannabes. You did not heed that and seem to think that you can dictate the site policy and are above moderation somehow. This is now stated for a third time by WWW above.
It won't be stated for a fourth time, I can assure you.
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PPRuNe Radar
Thanks for the PM which I have now read. Sorry if it appeared that I thought I was above moderation also, that was not my intention.
I realise that there needs to be strict moderation and that here only subjects relevant to wannabes should be discussed. If you read my first post I was addressing both the politics and the implications for wannabes - as indeed did WWW:
"Personally I am somewhat persuaded by the theory of a benign Iraq allowing an anti-Saudi stance."
My point was that the politics has great implications for wannabes and that's why I continued to discuss it here. We are all agreed that the war would have a great impact on the pilot market and therefore surely it can be argued that the politics of the war is a reasonable debate. Clearly you don't agree, but in my opinion at times the moderation does get a little over-zealous.
Thanks for the PM which I have now read. Sorry if it appeared that I thought I was above moderation also, that was not my intention.
I realise that there needs to be strict moderation and that here only subjects relevant to wannabes should be discussed. If you read my first post I was addressing both the politics and the implications for wannabes - as indeed did WWW:
"Personally I am somewhat persuaded by the theory of a benign Iraq allowing an anti-Saudi stance."
My point was that the politics has great implications for wannabes and that's why I continued to discuss it here. We are all agreed that the war would have a great impact on the pilot market and therefore surely it can be argued that the politics of the war is a reasonable debate. Clearly you don't agree, but in my opinion at times the moderation does get a little over-zealous.
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Pprune Radar tried to put it politely, but it seems that some of you do not understand his version of English.
The question, which was entirely appropriate, was basically 'What would the effect of a war in Iraq be with respect to the international pilot jobs market?' Address your answers to this question, and this question only. Those of you with better memory than your average goldfish will remember that this topic came up only a few weeks ago. I even had to take myself in hand for getting off the topic!
If you want to discuss politics, justice, the price of fish, beer, cars or whatever DO IT SOMEWHERE ELSE!!! This forum and, yes, this topic, is for the discussion of matters DIRECTLY relevant to the business of getting your licences or your first job.
I have no problem with deleting the entire thread if you fail to understand this final, final warning!
The question, which was entirely appropriate, was basically 'What would the effect of a war in Iraq be with respect to the international pilot jobs market?' Address your answers to this question, and this question only. Those of you with better memory than your average goldfish will remember that this topic came up only a few weeks ago. I even had to take myself in hand for getting off the topic!
If you want to discuss politics, justice, the price of fish, beer, cars or whatever DO IT SOMEWHERE ELSE!!! This forum and, yes, this topic, is for the discussion of matters DIRECTLY relevant to the business of getting your licences or your first job.
I have no problem with deleting the entire thread if you fail to understand this final, final warning!
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I was effectivelly more concerned about my immediate future (selfishly?) as a pilot.
So, as www stated, I'm only interested about the repercussion on the industry
I'd like to thanks www who always comes up with interesting post. I would agree with him that a war would put us back to the sept 11th situation at best (It is picking up quite well after only 10 months) and at gulf war at worse (Little jobs for nearly 10 year).
Nevertheless, few more years to wait for a decent job (I'm lucky I've got one) is too long. Specially if that war could be avaoided.
Thank you as well to the few people out there who know how to read a question.
For all the others "read the ****ing question".
Good luck to all.
So, as www stated, I'm only interested about the repercussion on the industry
I'd like to thanks www who always comes up with interesting post. I would agree with him that a war would put us back to the sept 11th situation at best (It is picking up quite well after only 10 months) and at gulf war at worse (Little jobs for nearly 10 year).
Nevertheless, few more years to wait for a decent job (I'm lucky I've got one) is too long. Specially if that war could be avaoided.
Thank you as well to the few people out there who know how to read a question.
For all the others "read the ****ing question".
Good luck to all.
