Speedbird Pilot Academy - Funded

[TrackingFlights]

Originally Posted by WanderingMinstrel

Received an invite to Waterside for the final stage. FTE applicant.

Well done!
What are the dates for FTE? Skyborne is all of next week and all of the week after .

[WanderingMinstrel]

Originally Posted by TrackingFlights

Well done!
What are the dates for FTE? Skyborne is all of next week and all of the week after .

From the 4th of December to the 8th of December, unless there was another page of dates which I didn’t notice.

[krankenhaus145]

Originally Posted by WanderingMinstrel

Received an invite to Waterside for the final stage. FTE applicant.

yep, same!

[krankenhaus145]

> think my odds atp must be about 1 to 2 or 1 to 3 with the amount of applicants left.
> today BA announces that they're now taking on 100 people to the scheme instead of 70.....

The odds are now looking in whoever-is-left's favour...
Best of luck to you all

[BAW pilot wannabe]

That announcement was very interesting - I was doing some 'calculations' based on the final interview dates.

I believe there are 9 dates for Skyborne and 5 dates for FTE - I was thinking there are 8 candidates per day (based on what is said in the what to expect about the interview part)

I'd guess that is 72 skyborne candidates, and 40 FTE left. Although my guessing could be well out if they now have 100 spaces.

If there were 16 people a day then there are 224 people to be interviewed and then that's a 45% chance at being successful. (if there are 8 a day, then 90% chance)

The odds are looking good, so now its time to do more prep to increase my odds!!

Good luck to all remaining

[krankenhaus145]

Originally Posted by BAW pilot wannabe

That announcement was very interesting - I was doing some 'calculations' based on the final interview dates.

I believe there are 9 dates for Skyborne and 5 dates for FTE - I was thinking there are 8 candidates per day (based on what is said in the what to expect about the interview part)

I'd guess that is 72 skyborne candidates, and 40 FTE left. Although my guessing could be well out if they now have 100 spaces.

If there were 16 people a day then there are 224 people to be interviewed and then that's a 45% chance at being successful. (if there are 8 a day, then 90% chance)

The odds are looking good, so now its time to do more prep to increase my odds!!

Good luck to all remaining

Assuming there was 70 places beforehand, and now there's 100, that means that there's an extra 15 places going, per flight school. (Assuming it's distributed equally). As, if you say, there is around 40 people left for FTE, then that would mean (35+15 = 50) places left, that everyone at fte would have a place, presuming they met the requirements? Almost insane odds😅. Unless my maths is wrong or it's an uneven distribution between skybourne and fte then my goodness those are the best odds I've ever bare witness to.

[BAW pilot wannabe]

I wonder if Skyborne will increase the number of Speedbird cadets per course, maybe to 15cadets: 5 self-funded so that there are 45 cadets over a 6 month period instead of the initial 30? if the numbers we're thinking are correct the FTE guys are pretty much through, unless they do something to convince BA otherwise.

For everyone at the final stages it is very good news, although it will make it far worse to be unsuccessful at this stage knowing they have increased the number of places and reaching the final hurdle.

It would definitely be interesting to know the actual number of people still in at this stage and the split of spaces at each ATO

[RoloPolo39]

Originally Posted by krankenhaus145

Assuming there was 70 places beforehand, and now there's 100, that means that there's an extra 15 places going, per flight school. (Assuming it's distributed equally). As, if you say, there is around 40 people left for FTE, then that would mean (35+15 = 50) places left, that everyone at fte would have a place, presuming they met the requirements? Almost insane odds😅. Unless my maths is wrong or it's an uneven distribution between skybourne and fte then my goodness those are the best odds I've ever bare witness to.

Initial 70 wasn’t split equally.

Skybourne 50
FTE 20

[173plogger]

Originally Posted by RoloPolo39

Initial 70 wasn’t split equally.

Skybourne 50
FTE 20

When I spoke to one of the recruiters at Waterside they said it was a 30-40 split FTE-Skyborne.

[mz98]

Been told by Skyborne that there will be between 8-12 candidates on each course, with courses commencing in March, April, May, July, August, September

Also on the number making it to the final assessment - I am reliably told that BA were initially planning to bring c.150 to the final stage (from both FTO combined) when there were 70 places. I cannot imagine they would lower that number to the 120 calculated above especially when there are now more places. I am operating under the assumption that there will be 16 candidates on each day, so 240 total left. Another piece of evidence which points towards this is the "Networking" section of the information doc which states "It is important that candidates do not discuss the activities with each other". This to me implies that there will be 2x groups of 8 sitting the different sections at different times.

I could of course be completely wrong as well! But as I say, can't imagine they'll have lowered the number of candidates whilst increasing the number of places.

[mz98]

Originally Posted by Aj2017

They said at the last interview stage there would be ten per course, with courses every other month starting in March so March, May, July and September. So I’m guessing this has changed if what you have been told is more recent?

I was told the same at my Skyborne interview (including the info above about a 30-40 split), and I believe that was their plan with 70 places available. But I think they have revised this with the additional places becoming available - it was one of the flight training advisors at Skyborne itself who told me of the update earlier this week.

Ultimately we're all speculating but I imagine it will become clear on the day how many are left, and I'm sure they will give an update on course dates/numbers for each process individually - assuming they have indeed changed.

[tinshifter]

Originally Posted by mz98

Been told by Skyborne that there will be between 8-12 candidates on each course, with courses commencing in March, April, May, July, August, September

Also on the number making it to the final assessment - I am reliably told that BA were initially planning to bring c.150 to the final stage (from both FTO combined) when there were 70 places. I cannot imagine they would lower that number to the 120 calculated above especially when there are now more places. I am operating under the assumption that there will be 16 candidates on each day, so 240 total left. Another piece of evidence which points towards this is the "Networking" section of the information doc which states "It is important that candidates do not discuss the activities with each other". This to me implies that there will be 2x groups of 8 sitting the different sections at different times.

I could of course be completely wrong as well! But as I say, can't imagine they'll have lowered the number of candidates whilst increasing the number of places.

I'd say 240 is far too many. There were only 7 at my last stage, and I think that was about average for the 2 weeks spread. Only 3 of my 7 made it through. I think there was about 160 left for the Skyborne pool last stage, and I'd say that there are about 70-90 left for either 50-60 jobs. 8-10 per day. I think the standard has been that high that they have increased the number of spaces and that the odds are really just that good!

[beepbeeppullup]

Originally Posted by tinshifter

I'd say 240 is far too many. There were only 7 at my last stage, and I think that was about average for the 2 weeks spread. Only 3 of my 7 made it through. I think there was about 160 left for the Skyborne pool last stage, and I'd say that there are about 70-90 left for either 50-60 jobs. 8-10 per day. I think the standard has been that high that they have increased the number of spaces and that the odds are really just that good!

In my last stage I was told that they initially planned to work on everyone having a 1 in 3 chance going into the last stage. So were planning on taking 120 Skyborne through for 40 places and 90 FTE through for 30 places. If they kept those numbers, would give a current chance of roughly 1 in 2, but they may have increased the number they put through to maintain the 1 in 3 with the increased capacity

[RoloPolo39]

Originally Posted by tinshifter

I'd say 240 is far too many. There were only 7 at my last stage, and I think that was about average for the 2 weeks spread. Only 3 of my 7 made it through. I think there was about 160 left for the Skyborne pool last stage, and I'd say that there are about 70-90 left for either 50-60 jobs. 8-10 per day. I think the standard has been that high that they have increased the number of spaces and that the odds are really just that good!

When you say your “last stage” do you mean the interview you done at Waterside prior to the final assessments coming up?

Them numbers seem good. I would have imagined there’d have only been a max of around 10-12 on each day of the final assessment.

As the initial jobs split was higher for Skybourne, I’d imagine their pool is bigger than FTE (also by the fact there’s more dates for final assessment for skybourne compared to FTE).

If your roundabout estimate for Skybournes 70-90, I’d imagine FTE would have to be at most 60-80.

So fair average being about 150 left in contention for up to 100 spaces.

With them numbers, it’s looking at about 10-11 candidates on final stage per day. Which would make the most sense for interviewers to really be able to judge and get an opinion on someone, compared to if there was 20+.

[mz98]

Originally Posted by tinshifter

I'd say 240 is far too many. There were only 7 at my last stage, and I think that was about average for the 2 weeks spread. Only 3 of my 7 made it through. I think there was about 160 left for the Skyborne pool last stage, and I'd say that there are about 70-90 left for either 50-60 jobs. 8-10 per day. I think the standard has been that high that they have increased the number of spaces and that the odds are really just that good!

When did you sit your Skyborne assessment? At my one towards the end of the 3 weeks, I would say there were at least 25 people there (morning + afternoon sessions combined). We were also told at the presentation that there were around 300 Skyborne candidates invited to the interview stage in total - would estimate 150-200 from FTE given the split of places. The 240 figure I cited is just what I think their MAXIMUM capacity would be for the 3 weeks - it is likely as you say that the reality will be less (maybe closer to / just under 200). So the odds do look good!

[PPRuNeUser0195]

Originally Posted by tinshifter

I'd say 240 is far too many. There were only 7 at my last stage, and I think that was about average for the 2 weeks spread. Only 3 of my 7 made it through. I think there was about 160 left for the Skyborne pool last stage, and I'd say that there are about 70-90 left for either 50-60 jobs. 8-10 per day. I think the standard has been that high that they have increased the number of spaces and that the odds are really just that good!

I think there were about 10 or 11 at mine, although I’m not sure how many got through.

[PPRuNeUser0195]

Originally Posted by mz98

When did you sit your Skyborne assessment? At my one towards the end of the 3 weeks, I would say there were at least 25 people there (morning + afternoon sessions combined). We were also told at the presentation that there were around 300 Skyborne candidates invited to the interview stage in total - would estimate 150-200 from FTE given the split of places. The 240 figure I cited is just what I think their MAXIMUM capacity would be for the 3 weeks - it is likely as you say that the reality will be less (maybe closer to / just under 200). So the odds do look good!

We’ll find out soon enough I’m sure given they start this week - will be interesting to see!

[adelta]

After the interview and subsequent rejection email I have received a couple of emails from Skyborne promoting their ATPL course. Unfortunately for me, the appeal for this scheme and one of the main points of it was that it was for those that don't have the funds required to self-sponsor. I don't have the funds and never will have the funds.

I get why they're doing it, they're a business but still.

Had anyone else who was rejected received feedback yet from the interviews?

[krankenhaus145]

Originally Posted by Aj2017

We’ll find out soon enough I’m sure given they start this week - will be interesting to see!

We can debate on numbers all we like but all that the increase in numbers really means is an increase in odds (Assuming there's not any more people being pushed through to the last stage!).

Good luck everyone!

[ScoobySimon]

Originally Posted by adelta

After the interview and subsequent rejection email I have received a couple of emails from Skyborne promoting their ATPL course. Unfortunately for me, the appeal for this scheme and one of the main points of it was that it was for those that don't have the funds required to self-sponsor. I don't have the funds and never will have the funds.

I get why they're doing it, they're a business but still.

Had anyone else who was rejected received feedback yet from the interviews?

I had emailed to ask about the feedback and they replied to say no feedback will be given, so back-pedalling on what was said at the assessment.