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Questions on the test are absolutely irrelevant to flying. You need basic addition and subtraction skills for working out fuel bottom lines and three and five times tables for descent profiles and that’s about it. I’ve got as far as the right hand seat of an A380 for the company in question with the above maths skills. Absolute nonsense to suggest that working out the area of a triangle is in any way relevant to the job. Yes I have seen the tests.
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Questions on the test are absolutely irrelevant to flying. You need basic addition and subtraction skills for working out fuel bottom lines and three and five times tables for descent profiles and that’s about it. I’ve got as far as the right hand seat of an A380 for the company in question with the above maths skills. Absolute nonsense to suggest that working out the area of a triangle is in any way relevant to the job. Yes I have seen the tests.
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Yes because computers do a lot of the maths for you for things such as fuel burns and speeds. As someone who’s sat in the right hand seat then you’ll agree that you need to be able to do a lot of the maths in those questions in order to be able to get through the ATPL theory? And for what it’s worth I agree the angles in a triangle isn’t relevant, I’m referring mainly to the speed / fuel burn type calculations.
(For full disclosure my 98% in ATPL General Navigation exam was achieved with decidedly average maths skills)
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Questions on the test are absolutely irrelevant to flying. You need basic addition and subtraction skills for working out fuel bottom lines and three and five times tables for descent profiles and that’s about it. I’ve got as far as the right hand seat of an A380 for the company in question with the above maths skills. Absolute nonsense to suggest that working out the area of a triangle is in any way relevant to the job. Yes I have seen the tests.
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Got the email inviting me to the video interview around 5pm today. Anyone know how long you have to complete this? I'd ideally like to be formally dressed (suit & tie etc.) as if it were a real interview, but won't be back home until after this weekend.
You’ve got a short memory then, Rex. Ground school/initial flying/instrument rating are all fairly maths heavy, as is the necessity to perform whilst under pressure. The maths tests are not just assessing your ability to add up…
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Also, does anyone know whether the training would be ab initio regardless of experience? I have a PPL, 170 hours, and Night & IMC ratings. I just lack the funds to get the full CPL/ME/IR/ATPL, hence why I've applied.
Upon reflection, my comment was poorly worded, and yes did come across as spoilt. I suppose my point is where do I improve - I accept better candiates get in and I don't doubt that. But I think from the volume of times I've applied, money I have invested into a PPL, work experiences, I would like to know what I am lacking (and yes I am working on self-awareness). However, I do believe often that d&i can swing too much in one direction, surely pilots should be chosen on merit? I am all for D&I of course but the recent RAF scandal about 'too many useless white male pilots' shone light ono this issue.
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Damn it (speedbird training)
Well I tried so hard and failed at the first hurdle. But I won't be beaten. I won't give up. There is always a next time. 12 months to wait and gain experience and be better for the next opportunity.
It will be fully Ab initio, but equally you’re not paying for it so who cares. If they want to pay for you to spend six months learning the art of cooking south East Asian cuisine for example or completing a foundation degree in geology… 🤷♂️
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I also was invited to redo my checking test. I have completed it but haven't heard anything since. Just hope it wasn't a mistake as I was sent a rejection email on the 19th after the checking test timed out. Anyone else in the same boat with information?
That's a great position to be in. If you have passed the ATPL then you only need a 10 hour IR, a 15 hour CPL and minumum 8 hours of ME flying
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I happen to know someone who works in the recruitment team and they are pushing to have a better proportion of diverse backgrounds in the selection pools. So if your name sounds like it’s from a diverse background you have a better chance of getting through some of the stages.
In general, if you don't understand something it's better to learn about it than make ridiculous assumptions and spread baseless rumours.
Frankly I'd genuinely be surprised if you did well on the SJT or fact checking tests as the inference you made from that is astounding.
There are plenty of people with "diverse backgrounds" who have white-sounding surnames. As an example, if you had one "white" paternal grandparent but the rest of your family were BAME, you'd largely be of an "ethnic" background but on paper no one would know because you'd have a "white-sounding" family name.
When I see "pushing to have a better proportion of diverse backgrounds in the selection pool" I don't automatically conclude that it means they're selecting people purely on their race.
I don't have an HR background at all, but the first thought that comes to my mind is "How can they reach populations that might otherwise have missed this opportunity?"
This could take place in various forms, from representation to outreaches (going to schools and communities to advertise the programme) and one way to track if these methods are working is by seeing if there is an increase in applications from these populations (hence why they ask for the info on the application) andNOT that they are using that to select who gets on the programme itself.
Like someone else said, I hope BA recruitment is reading this thread (as well as other airlines) and take your comments on here into account when deciding if you make it or not.