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Old 12th Aug 2021, 16:02
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Sim Check Preparation

Hello everyone,

should one be invited for a sim check assessment with very limited training i.e. just standard MCC. What can one do to maximize their chances of success? i've even heard of individuals without MCC being invited for a sim check for an airliner, but how are they even expected to know what to do having near 0 knowledge on the aircraft sim (i.e a320, 737)?

Also, would anyone here recommend doing a self sponsored APS MCC program? do you think it is beneficial.

Any feedback or advice is highly appreciated.
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Old 12th Aug 2021, 16:50
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Itís my understanding that you generally fly a standardized profile that does not require any specific systems knowledge.
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Old 12th Aug 2021, 16:51
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There are places where you can book up a few hours sim practice on the relevant type, no need to do a complete mcc or joc again.
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Old 12th Aug 2021, 17:27
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I was in the same situation as you re needing experience flying a jet. I did a few hours assessment prep with these guys (assuming its the same ones, pretty sure it was called Virtual Aviation or alike when I was there!). I was really impressed with the service / training; and though it felt expensive at the time worth every penny. I'm fairly confident I wouldn't have passed the assessment for my first airline job without it. I'd recommend giving them a call and have a chat about what they can offer which would suit yours needs.

Appreciate this reads a bit like an ad - zero affiliation with them I promise - just one of very few training organisations I've ever been impressed with.
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Old 12th Aug 2021, 20:12
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I would try and get some time in a sim in the type that will be used for the assessment. Failing that, some time on a boeing/airbus of some type, delete as appropriate.

The main thing to remember though is that your assessor will not be expecting perfection. The ability to learn is important, and so if you can show improvement throughout the session that will go some way towards a successful outcome.

However, a sim assessment is about looking at more than just your manual flying skills. They will be looking at you as a person, assessing your personality and how well you work with the person in the other seat. Are you argumentative/dismissive or are you collaborative and open to suggestions? Do you prioritise ANC, make time for decision making, consider options/alternatives, are you calm and methodical under pressure? Do you use all the resources available to you to ensure a successful outcome? In other words how good are you at practicing modern CRM. This is more important, in my view, than whether or not you fly a perfect holding pattern or ILS.

Good luck!
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Old 12th Aug 2021, 20:15
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this was an extremely useful response many thanks mate i will definitely bear this in mind
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Sim check for "ab initio" cadets

Hello everyone! Any tips for sim prep for
"non experianced pilots" who are joining for
"ab initio" training ?
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Old 2nd Sep 2021, 07:48
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Twin Otter IFR,

I voice and agree with Northern Monkey's comments.

I recently ran a practice SIM (this gentleman had a SIM assessment) for an APS MCC holder on the B737-800 SIM, to which he was given the profiles, by the airline on what to expect. A couple of hours in the SIM would be of great value to you, whichever type you are going to be assessed on for familiarity and to avoid skill fade on flying a jet.

Focus will be on solid non technical skills as Northern Monkey suggested, being able to work in the multi crew environment, and exercising skills in both roles, as PM and being able to lead as PF demonstrating solid decision making skills and being able to be calm and methodical under pressure.

You will not be expected to have to knowledge of, for example the B737 or the Airbus, but will be expected to demonstrate continued learning and progress throughout.

The APS certificate is well worth having, as airlines will be looking for this. The APS course is based on the nine ICAO competencies to which you develop skill and will be assessed, and if you finish the course with an APS CERT it shows you have met a 'competent' standard and that you have performed at or above a certain skill level.

Hope that helps.
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Old 2nd Sep 2021, 09:34
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thank you very much CAT3C AUTOLAND i have already confirmed my enrolment for the APS MCC course for the reasons youve mentioned and gave me more assurance that this was a good decision for my part. Cheers!
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