Convert MPL to ATPL
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Convert MPL to ATPL
Evening all,
Could someone who has completed the above process shed some light on the total cost for converting your license?
I’m very much aware it’s all dependent on an individual’s hours, but a ball park figure would be appreciated!
Thank you
Could someone who has completed the above process shed some light on the total cost for converting your license?
I’m very much aware it’s all dependent on an individual’s hours, but a ball park figure would be appreciated!
Thank you
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Apologies I should have made it clearer!
I’ve been made redundant from my UK airline and have just fewer than 1000 hours on the bus.
It would need to be the whole CPL saga in order to make myself more employable in the current climate as the MPL seems rather a foreign language to most job postings.
I’ve been made redundant from my UK airline and have just fewer than 1000 hours on the bus.
It would need to be the whole CPL saga in order to make myself more employable in the current climate as the MPL seems rather a foreign language to most job postings.
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My understanding is that your A320 MPL would be valid at other airlines. BA were happy to take EZY cadets with 500hrs and an MPL. Also if you get a new job flying a different type AFAIA you can just put a new type rating on your existing MPL. I don't think they are as restrictive as people make out.
However, if you wanted to flight instruct on SEPs then obviously you'd need to do some hours building as you haven't got a PPL, CPL etc and your MPL is a multi-crew licence only. Happy to stand corrected but I think that's about right.
However, if you wanted to flight instruct on SEPs then obviously you'd need to do some hours building as you haven't got a PPL, CPL etc and your MPL is a multi-crew licence only. Happy to stand corrected but I think that's about right.
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Thanks for the reply! Having flown for both of those airlines I’m having to look at the most likely to recruit next which would be WIZZ.. apparently they don’t accept an MPL, hence the needed conversion.
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I believe your best bet would be to apply to airlines which do accept MPL pilots, once you have your 1500 hrs, your ATPL is unfrozen then. If you decide to go through PPL to CPL, its going to cost you atleast 35-40K euros, which doesn't make sense honestly. good luck
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EASA Part-FCL:
FCL.405.A MPL - Privileges
(b)The holder of an MPL may obtain the extra privileges of:
(2) a CPL(A), provided that the requirements specified in FCL.325.A are met.
(c) [IR(A) limited to co-pilot ops. Single pilot IR(A) ops only allowed if skill test IR(A) passed as single-pilot]
FCL.325.A CPL(A) - Specific conditions for MPL holders
Before exercising the privileges of a CPL(A), the holder of an MPL shall have completed in aeroplanes:
(a) 70 hours of flight time: (1) as PIC [incl. 20 hrs x-country]; ...
(b) the elements of the CPL(A) modular course as specified in paragraphs 10(a) and 11 of Appendix 3,
E to this Part; and
(c) the CPL(A) skill test, in accordance with FCL.320.
So depending on your initial MPL training, you will need at least to get 70 hrs PIC and a CPL(A) skill test. MPL programmes differ throughout Europe so check your logbook and compare to Part-FCL to see what you are missing before you can request the CPL(A) skill test. There is however no need to get a PPL, and perhaps you already logged a few PIC hours during your MPL training, but I reckon I'd still set you back at least 10k-15k.
Furthermore, even if you were to get 1500 hrs on your MPL and able to upgrade to ATPL, you would still be limited to multi-pilot operations unless you comply with CPL(A) requirements.
Goodluck!
FCL.405.A MPL - Privileges
(b)The holder of an MPL may obtain the extra privileges of:
(2) a CPL(A), provided that the requirements specified in FCL.325.A are met.
(c) [IR(A) limited to co-pilot ops. Single pilot IR(A) ops only allowed if skill test IR(A) passed as single-pilot]
FCL.325.A CPL(A) - Specific conditions for MPL holders
Before exercising the privileges of a CPL(A), the holder of an MPL shall have completed in aeroplanes:
(a) 70 hours of flight time: (1) as PIC [incl. 20 hrs x-country]; ...
(b) the elements of the CPL(A) modular course as specified in paragraphs 10(a) and 11 of Appendix 3,
E to this Part; and
(c) the CPL(A) skill test, in accordance with FCL.320.
So depending on your initial MPL training, you will need at least to get 70 hrs PIC and a CPL(A) skill test. MPL programmes differ throughout Europe so check your logbook and compare to Part-FCL to see what you are missing before you can request the CPL(A) skill test. There is however no need to get a PPL, and perhaps you already logged a few PIC hours during your MPL training, but I reckon I'd still set you back at least 10k-15k.
Furthermore, even if you were to get 1500 hrs on your MPL and able to upgrade to ATPL, you would still be limited to multi-pilot operations unless you comply with CPL(A) requirements.
Goodluck!
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No it doesn't cost that much, there are certain ATOs that were charging that but it doesn't need to cost that much.
To gain the conventional CPL you just need to gap the requirements between the MPL corephase 1 and 2 (SEP training phase) and the requirements for the "conventional" CPL.
So the main shortfall for most MPLs will be the solo time required and the 300 NM cross country qualifier; now MPL courses are different in content so the exact gap will need to be assessed between the MPL course you did and the CPL requirements. Then it is a case of the 15 hour CPL course, so x amount of hours building and the single engine CPL course. Believe MPLs can have the p1 time based on the integrated requirement of 70 hours p1 rather than the 100 hour for modular.
If you wish to obtain a SPA ME IR then the gap in training required does become more marked, but as you have a MPA IR via the 320 type rating I wouldn't see it as necessary if you are only applying for other work on other multi crew types.
To gain the conventional CPL you just need to gap the requirements between the MPL corephase 1 and 2 (SEP training phase) and the requirements for the "conventional" CPL.
So the main shortfall for most MPLs will be the solo time required and the 300 NM cross country qualifier; now MPL courses are different in content so the exact gap will need to be assessed between the MPL course you did and the CPL requirements. Then it is a case of the 15 hour CPL course, so x amount of hours building and the single engine CPL course. Believe MPLs can have the p1 time based on the integrated requirement of 70 hours p1 rather than the 100 hour for modular.
If you wish to obtain a SPA ME IR then the gap in training required does become more marked, but as you have a MPA IR via the 320 type rating I wouldn't see it as necessary if you are only applying for other work on other multi crew types.
