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Emirates Flight Training Academy (EFTA)

Old 24th Oct 2020, 13:26
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Question Emirates Flight Training Academy (EFTA)

Hi all,

First time on this forum - hope this is the right place for my questions.

I am a British national and about two years ago I registered my interest for EFTA. A few days ago, I received an email from them inviting me to the four-day assessment in Dubai.

I am really eager to take the opportunity and go ahead with the assessment, but I've been trying to get in contact with them to clarify a few questions, but to no avail.

I read on another thread on PPRuNe that Emirates do not offer a job to international students once they graduate from their Flight Training Academy. Can someone please confirm this?

Also, I believe the cost is $250k, so I'm not entirely sure if this is worth it, considering there's no job offer at the end. You could join the L3 Airline Academy Integrated ATPL course, which is £90k, and still be in the same position with the Emirates programme.

What is everyone's thoughts on this? Any advice would be highly appreciated.
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Old 24th Oct 2020, 13:59
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There is no job offer with Emirates at the end.
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Old 24th Oct 2020, 16:32
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First time on the forum ?

Please have a look through the other threads / posts before considering an integrated course, or parting with any money.
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Old 24th Oct 2020, 17:32
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Be aware to join L3 Harris!..take a look "L3 Harris, the final shafting" tread .
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Old 24th Oct 2020, 17:42
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$250k is roughly £200k. If you have money to burn then go for it, in the full knowledge that C-19 has caused a massive implosion of black hole proportions in aviation. The prospect of employment is non existent for the short to medium term.

I find it remarkable that you are contemplating spending $250k in the first place for licence issue.
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Old 25th Oct 2020, 01:15
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Originally Posted by SOPS View Post
There is no job offer with Emirates at the end.
Thought as much, thanks!

Originally Posted by SID PLATE View Post
First time on the forum ?

Please have a look through the other threads / posts before considering an integrated course, or parting with any money.
i have been reading other threads.

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Be aware to join L3 Harris!..take a look "L3 Harris, the final shafting" tread .
yes, Iíve come across this and have been reading everything.

Originally Posted by parkfell View Post
$250k is roughly £200k. If you have money to burn then go for it, in the full knowledge that C-19 has caused a massive implosion of black hole proportions in aviation. The prospect of employment is non existent for the short to medium term.

I find it remarkable that you are contemplating spending $250k in the first place for licence issue.
I understand the COVID issue and I know $250k is a lot, especially with no job guarantee at the end. Hence why I was considering L3 (to which I have applied a few years ago but wasnít successful) and now Iím trying again. Although, Iíve read the horror stories from L3.

Now, with COVID too, Iím really confused as to whether itís the right time to even pursue pilot training.
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Old 25th Oct 2020, 08:15
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Originally Posted by hamzii786 View Post
I’m really confused as to whether it’s the right time to even pursue pilot training.
Just my ten cents worth but I'd suggest it is highly highly probable that now really really is not the right time to be chucking six figure sums on a full time course that's going to see you on the market with a new, highly perishable licence at the back end of 2021 or in early 2022.

If you insist on commencing training now then protect your current income stream and above all look for ways of making that training, and most importantly the end date as flexible as possible...i.e. Modular or other options...

I'd have a long hard look at lots of the threads on this section of PPRuNe, and not just the last few pages of those threads..look back at comments from a few months back..there's a lot of good info hidden away.

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Old 25th Oct 2020, 08:37
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It's throwing money in water at this stage. There will be no pilot jobs in Middle East for a few years. They have waiting lists of 1000's of redundant pilots willing to be reinstated if an opportunity comes along.
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Old 25th Oct 2020, 08:48
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You would be entirely correct to give serious thought as to whether this is the time to commence training.
What exactly is causing “your confusion”?

This time around L3 would welcome you with open arms (you have already passed before answering the first question) take your money, irrespective as to your aptitude testing scores, notwithstanding that previously you were assessed as an unacceptable training risk.
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Old 25th Oct 2020, 11:23
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For 250K why dont you just buy your own plane and enjoy yourself?
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Old 25th Oct 2020, 14:02
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Hamzii, have you considered the total cost of the training with EFTA? Outside of the cost of the course, there's the living expenses covering day to day essentials. Dubai is not a cheap place to live, I sit in bewilderment at people looking to conduct flight training here, for the cost of the course (inc a daily living allowance) you could could probably buy your own plane including your PPL. Save your money and listen to the sage advice of those with many years in the industry.... remember a fool and their money are soon parted. Don't be that fool.
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Old 25th Oct 2020, 23:23
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For 250K why dont you just buy your own plane and enjoy yourself?
Why stop there? Given the current state and trajectory of the industry, 250K will soon buy you an airline
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 12:42
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Without weighing in on the argument of when will be the right time to start commercial pilot training, if you are considering training with a UK ATO then you would be wise to consider what licence you want to graduate with. From 01 January 2021 the CAA will only be able to issue UK Licences, not Part-FCL licences (EU licences). If you wish to gain employment with an EU airline you will therefore need to convert a UK-issued licence to a Part-FCL equivalent. In theory the conversion process shouldn't require any additional training/examinations, but this is all dependent on successful bilateral agreements being reached between the UK and the EU. UK schools will likely choose to hold UK CAA approval and separately EASA approval through registration with an EU Member State (if they haven't already done so), and so should be able to deliver training towards the grant of both UK and Part-FCL licences, but you need to confirm this with your school and make a decision about which licence you want to graduate with.
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 19:05
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For 250k you could get a quality modular EASA fATPL, 737 type+500h, aerobatic rating, TMG rating, sailplane rating, tailwheel endorsement warbird/L39/MIG/whatever type+some hours.

but yeah, just spend it on a basic icao fatpl sandpit course

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