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Old 28th Nov 2019, 21:41
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Originally Posted by rudestuff View Post
As for the best study technique, there are two: Study/Test or Test/Study.

Study/Test is old school in-depth studying of books etc, with no idea what's relevant and what's not. Usually while muttering the phrase "I want to properly understand the subject, not just pass a test.." and usually followed by failure.

Test/Study is taking a test purely to find out the answers, then hitting the books to find out WHY those are the answers: Actively going looking for answers while building a mental framework of the subject, making use of question banks, Google, YouTube and course books. There are a finite number of learning objectives and a limited number of ways to test them, so this is the most effective way to study.
Woukd you be inclined to advise us about your qualifications as an educator, and provide some evidence to back up your assertions?
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Old 29th Nov 2019, 00:14
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Originally Posted by Capt Pit Bull View Post


Woukd you be inclined to advise us about your qualifications as an educator, and provide some evidence to back up your assertions?
Not particularly. Since my assertion is that you learn best that which you seek yourself.

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Old 29th Nov 2019, 08:33
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Originally Posted by rudestuff View Post
Almost, it's 7 years from your last IR. So as long as you keep revalidating your IR they'll never run out.

As for the best study technique, there are two: Study/Test or Test/Study.

Study/Test is old school in-depth studying of books etc, with no idea what's relevant and what's not. Usually while muttering the phrase "I want to properly understand the subject, not just pass a test.." and usually followed by failure.

Test/Study is taking a test purely to find out the answers, then hitting the books to find out WHY those are the answers: Actively going looking for answers while building a mental framework of the subject, making use of question banks, Google, YouTube and course books. There are a finite number of learning objectives and a limited number of ways to test them, so this is the most effective way to study.
You know I've always preferred the Test/Study approach and it's worked well for me at University, PPL exams etc but it felt a little wrong for some reason, maybe not so after all!
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Old 29th Nov 2019, 14:31
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Originally Posted by Capt Pit Bull View Post


Woukd you be inclined to advise us about your qualifications as an educator, and provide some evidence to back up your assertions?
Evidence is that it works I think

Day to day commercial aviation barely scratches even 5% of the garbage you have to learn in groundschool. There is absolutely zero point learning it all properly and in depth, you just won’t use it. rudestuff’s absolutely right in saying that a lot of people, particularly some of the older students I found, take a great deal of pride in not using the question banks and try to learn it all properly...

...After failing their first sitting they then hit the question bank like everyone else, pass, get the licence and dump the information straight away, along with everyone else.

Don’t go in thinking this is a voyage of learning or you’ll get bogged down with junk, learn, pass, dump, repeat.
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