Best place to hour build in .... Europe

[asmith474]

Hi Guys looking for some advice. I see a lot of info recommending hour building in the USA, however this really isn't an option for me. Currently i'm living in Poland and am thinking whether to do my hour building here or somewhere else. which places would you recommend and why.

Thanks!

[Flyfede80]

If you're in Poland...in Poland as well...there're a lot of local aeroclub/school...you can start to ask them...

[asmith474]

Originally Posted by Flyfede80

If you're in Poland...in Poland as well...there're a lot of local aeroclub/school...you can start to ask them...

any particular aeroclubs you can recommend. either near lodz or warsaw ?

[flapsupboy]

Try PZL Mielec. They've got C152s.

[tramily_8]

In Poland itself would be your best bet.

If you want somewhere else, check pannon Air in Budapest or Cavok academy

[edinburghpilot]

Come over to Scotland and fly with ACS based at Perth. They have a fleet of about 20 aircraft: 152's, 172's, PA28's. The flying here is great with many different airfields to visit.

and you can get cheap flights and accommodation

Google "ACS Flight Training - Perth"

[Bjornolf]

Originally Posted by edinburghpilot

Come over to Scotland and fly with ACS based at Perth. They have a fleet of about 20 aircraft: 152's, 172's, PA28's. The flying here is great with many different airfields to visit.

and you can get cheap flights and accommodation

Google "ACS Flight Training - Perth"

Their rates are not reasonable.

1 hour for Cessna 152 is 128 £ = 138 €.

This rate is very much for C152.

They want extra money for check out before flying PIC even if you purchase 100 hours.

There are a lot of flight schools and clubs in Poland. You can fly with 100-110 € on C152 including safety pilot.

Living expenses in Poland are cheaper than Scotland, UK etc.

Pan Aero is thinkable. It is in Crotia. As far as know, 1 hour flight on Diamond 20 is approx. 109 €. They give familiarization training for DA 20 and it is free.

Note: If you purchase 50 or more hours, don't pay any money for check out, familiarization etc. This things have to be free of charge.

[edinburghpilot]

Originally Posted by Bjornolf

Their rates are not reasonable.

1 hour for Cessna 152 is 128 £ = 138 €.

This rate is very much for C152.

They want extra money for check out before flying PIC even if you purchase 100 hours.

Sorry, for the UK, (certainly Scotland) their rates are actually very good. Looks like you should stay in Poland for your hour building. Unless you go to America, or buy a share in an aircraft, you wont get much cheaper than that!

[Bjornolf]

Reasonable prices are not limited to Poland.

There are many options for time building in Europe.

Skytaxi which is based in Hungary is conceivable. 1 hour for C152 is 99 €.
Fuel, tax, landing fee and safety pilot included.

Blackbushe Flying Club offers good rates. It is based in London.

1 hour for C150 is 85 £ = 93 €.

1 hour for C172 is 135 £ = 148 €.

Fuel, tax included. No membership is required.

Note: As I said before if flight school or flight club wants extra money for check out, familiarization training etc. (even if you purchase 50-100 hours), never take them seriously.

[SJH1]

You'd be surprised what you can find in the UK!!
There's Blackbushe Flying Club where you can buy 25hrs for £100 p/h, especially for hour builders, and others at similar rates....

[Aztec_Flyer]

Hour building offer

New hours building offer from Waterford Aero Club this summer.

50 hours flight time for €7,000 or 90 hours flight time for €12,000.

Rates include:
- Fuel
-Club membership
- Two hours of instructor time for checkout
- Landings at Waterford
Aircraft: PA28

More info at waterfordaeroclub.com/hourbuilding

Hopefully of use for someone!

[FougaMagister]

At Warsaw-Babice, Stork Aviation used to rent a nice Robin HR200-120 (F-BUQG) with Lycoming O235, for 400PLN including fuel (although the hourly rate probably went up). They have a FB page; it may be worth checking them out.

At Brzeska Wola, 70 km south of Warsaw, FlyPoland have hour building packages on C-152s or 172s which can include accommodation.

In Hungary, CAVOK.hu have decent HB rates on Viper SD4, Tecnam P2002-JF and Aero AT3 R100.

Cheers

[Gargleblaster]

Consider joining a syndicate. Did that myself, owned a thirteenth of a 1965 PA28 140 for around half a year. The tacho price was around 2/3rds of a club aircraft, and half of a commercial one.

[605carsten]

Remember you need to add airline tickets and living costs if you want to go abroad, which raises the hour cost.
Tbh, the cheapest rates I have seen around Europe has been in Poland, so its pretty obvious you should stay there

[B2N2]

Originally Posted by Bjornolf

Note: If you purchase 50 or more hours, don't pay any money for check out, familiarization etc. This things have to be free of charge.

I really don’t understand how you think a flight school or training organization owes you anything for free.
There is no such thing as free, if there is no separate charge for a checkout flight it is included.
Also you seem to have an issue with an organization verifying that you have the skills to act as PIC on an aircraft that does not belong to you.

[605carsten]

Anything that raises the oil pressure on a flying machine costs money. You can negotiate whether the FI checking you out should be on the house (if they are full time) but a checkout is also loggable flight time, so not sure why anybody has an issue with paying for it.

[B2N2]

Not to mention liability for a training organization not verifying if an individual is 1. Correctly certificated or licensed 2. Competent

Prospect shows up gets the keys thrown at him and drills a smoking hole in the ground on their first take off.
Nope, nothing to do with us.

REALLY?!

[carvi]

Originally Posted by Aztec_Flyer

New hours building offer from Waterford Aero Club this summer.

50 hours flight time for €7,000 or 90 hours flight time for €12,000.

Rates include:
- Fuel
-Club membership
- Two hours of instructor time for checkout
- Landings at Waterford
Aircraft: PA28

More info at waterfordaeroclub.com/hourbuilding

Hopefully of use for someone!

Please correct me if this was well understood, is it only 35h real flight on PA21-140? In other words, €200 per hour? Thank you