Brexit impact on flight schools

[FuturePilot6]

Hello,

I bet many people thinking of this career are facing this issue and I wish to get some information about it. My first language is Spanish, please don't mind the grammar mistakes. Does anyone know what will happen to schools who are approved by the CAA (UK)? For example, FTEJerez is an CAA approved training organisation and has a license to conduct the ATPL exams there.

[Airgus]

So far nothing will be affected by Brexit at the big schools.
As EU resident aim to get EASA and as a briton aim for UK CAA.
Schools, who clients are mixed, are able to cope with both EASA (AustroControl, AESA, etc) and UK CAA.
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[FuturePilot6]

What about the flight school in Malaga called 2Fly Aerodynamics? They offer modular courses and are also approved by the UK CAA to conduct the ATPL exams there.

[BillieBob]

If, and only if, the UK leaves the EU under WTO rules (i.e. no deal) on 29th March, training at UK-approved organisations after this date, wherever located, will not be recognised or accepted for the issue of EU licences, ratings or certificates. All licences issued by the UK will, on the same date, become UK national licences.

[FuturePilot6]

Originally Posted by BillieBob

If, and only if, the UK leaves the EU under WTO rules (i.e. no deal) on 29th March, training at UK-approved organisations after this date, wherever located, will not be recognised or accepted for the issue of EU licences, ratings or certificates. All licences issued by the UK will, on the same date, become UK national licences.

I haven't really been reading about the whole brexit thing. Is the WTO most likely going to happen?

[paco]

Shirley it will only be a problem if we leave EASA rather than the junta?

[BillieBob]

In the absence of any other arrangements (i.e. in a no-deal scenario), leaving the EU means leaving all of its agencies, including EASA. And stop calling me Surely.

[vetflyer]

I thought FTE was now approved by DGAC ie Spain

Rgds

[Spidermann]

What happens if someone with a UK medical is part way through training with an ATO in the EU? Can they finish their training there and stilll get a UK licence?

[flybyschool]

Originally Posted by Spidermann

What happens if someone with a UK medical is part way through training with an ATO in the EU? Can they finish their training there and stilll get a UK licence?

I believe the straight answer is NO... but there is a way around it
An ATO under EASA regulations in Europe (apart from the UK) will only be allowed to train under EASA regulations. The UK will not be able to accept documentation from an EU ATO so the answer is No, you will not be able to get a UK license

Additionally, you will not be able to get an EASA license with your UK Class 1 but don't panic, you will still be able to get an EASA Class 1 and then being issued an EASA license...
The UK will recognize EASA licenses for up to two years after Brexit so you may be able to get your desired UK license after all... ;-)

At least, that's how I see it...

(check the CAA brexit website)

[paco]

"The UK will not be able to accept documentation from an EU ATO "

They can if they want to..... They just have to deem EASA regulations as being acceptable

[Duchess_Driver]

They can if they want to..... They just have to deem EASA regulations as being acceptable

And why would they not do that? After a decade or more of saying that these regulations are OK you wouldn’t overnight turn around and say otherwise... or would you?

It’s my belief that as with U.K.-to JAA and JAA to EASA there will be a transition period where both U.K. and EASA would be acceptable. You can’t simply switch it off.

[BillieBob]

In its Notice to Stakeholders regarding Brexit, The European Commission was quite clear,

"Certificates issued before the withdrawal date by the competent authorities of the United Kingdom on the basis of the provisions of the Basic Regulation and its implementing rules will no longer be valid as of the withdrawal date in the EU."

Therefore, in a 'no-deal' scenario, a UK-issued EASA medical certificate will not be valid in the EU after 29 March. It will, of course, continue to be valid as a UK medical certificate.