BA Cadetship - September???
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WWW,
My experience as a former City trader is thus:
They don't care. They don't understand. They don't care. They don't want to know.
The city is far too short lived to give a rat's ass about BA cadet schemes.
The cost of a cadet course can be made and lost before lunchtime for a lot of city boys.
The fact remains that if the trader still has an open position in BA by lunch, then that is a long long term view!!
I imagine it is a very effective tax break tool for them at BA though....
A rather tongue in cheek view, not one to contradict you.....really a swipe at my former way of making a living!
Heck, I hope they do something though. It would give EVERYONE a shot in the arm.
My experience as a former City trader is thus:
They don't care. They don't understand. They don't care. They don't want to know.
The city is far too short lived to give a rat's ass about BA cadet schemes.
The cost of a cadet course can be made and lost before lunchtime for a lot of city boys.
The fact remains that if the trader still has an open position in BA by lunch, then that is a long long term view!!
I imagine it is a very effective tax break tool for them at BA though....
A rather tongue in cheek view, not one to contradict you.....really a swipe at my former way of making a living!
Heck, I hope they do something though. It would give EVERYONE a shot in the arm.
I agree that The City don't give a monkeys about something as trivial as £2.5m.
However, BA is trying to get rid of staff and hold down pay and conditions. It will not help their position internally if they are seen to be spending money on a top of the range cadetship scheme.
Frankly nobody knows when the cadetship will return - not even in BA HR department I imagine.
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However, BA is trying to get rid of staff and hold down pay and conditions. It will not help their position internally if they are seen to be spending money on a top of the range cadetship scheme.
Frankly nobody knows when the cadetship will return - not even in BA HR department I imagine.
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any further info?
Hi guys,
Getting back to the BA cadet JOC courses starting, could you, moggie or you, WWW give any further information as to when and where they are starting? I didn't think it would be this soon, but it might be an indication that the whole cadetship ball might start rolling again!
Thanks guys
Getting back to the BA cadet JOC courses starting, could you, moggie or you, WWW give any further information as to when and where they are starting? I didn't think it would be this soon, but it might be an indication that the whole cadetship ball might start rolling again!
Thanks guys
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Not really - to the best of my knowledge, nothing is set in concrete yet.
Then we can all do the sums - 75 or so cadets in the pool, 8 per JOC = 6 and a bit JOCs. 1 JOC per month each at ATP and BAE = 3-4 months and the pool is gone. Now, I don't know if that will be the rate but it won't take long to use up the pool.
Trouble is, the BA conditions for new boys are not too good - better pay in Orange land!!!! They are really struggling to encourage pilots to leave another airline for BA - so if they can't get enough DEPs, back comes the cadetship.
As a thought - OK it costs £50K+ to train a cadet, but you pay him/her less than a DEP and get it all back within 5 years - that looks good on the bottom line!
Then we can all do the sums - 75 or so cadets in the pool, 8 per JOC = 6 and a bit JOCs. 1 JOC per month each at ATP and BAE = 3-4 months and the pool is gone. Now, I don't know if that will be the rate but it won't take long to use up the pool.
Trouble is, the BA conditions for new boys are not too good - better pay in Orange land!!!! They are really struggling to encourage pilots to leave another airline for BA - so if they can't get enough DEPs, back comes the cadetship.
As a thought - OK it costs £50K+ to train a cadet, but you pay him/her less than a DEP and get it all back within 5 years - that looks good on the bottom line!
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Think about the timeframe
What has the size of the pool of BA cadets/unemployed wannabees in mid 2002 got to do with starting a cadet scheme in September 2002?
Tell me if I've got this wrong:
September 2002 - relaunch the cadetships
October 2002 - 1st new cadets selected
January 2003 - 1st course start training
February 2004 - 1st course ready for JOC training
March 2004 - 1st course ready to join the airline
Are the dates following September 2002 not ambitious?
So the job market/recruiting requirements in 2004 are relavant. Today's situation will be long-forgotten history by then.
Tell me if I've got this wrong:
September 2002 - relaunch the cadetships
October 2002 - 1st new cadets selected
January 2003 - 1st course start training
February 2004 - 1st course ready for JOC training
March 2004 - 1st course ready to join the airline
Are the dates following September 2002 not ambitious?
So the job market/recruiting requirements in 2004 are relavant. Today's situation will be long-forgotten history by then.
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The point is...
If BA are starting JOC courses in September, then they will be taking people from the pool of cadets - 75 of them - who have already finished the IRT stage. As they have no one else training, and 200 pilots, every year, are retiring, then they might need cadets starting on courses in the near future. All that depends, of course, on whether they continue downsizing or not. So starting JOC courses now, Sally, would/could/might/maybe/perhaps mean they need to re-open the cadet scheme. Possibly. A guess. A hope. Insh'Allah. Who knows?
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I did my part 2 interview at BA on the 13th September which was slightly odd to say the least.
I didn't get selected but at least 2 of my 8 did. Although of course, having been told they had been successful, I believe there was no action or promises beyond that. So what will happen to them? Are they classed as "in the pool" or will they have to re-apply now it's been so long? Can't have been a great year for them. Do you pursue another career in the meantime in case it all falls apart or do you knock around in the belief that BA will ultimately take you on?
Just interested........
I didn't get selected but at least 2 of my 8 did. Although of course, having been told they had been successful, I believe there was no action or promises beyond that. So what will happen to them? Are they classed as "in the pool" or will they have to re-apply now it's been so long? Can't have been a great year for them. Do you pursue another career in the meantime in case it all falls apart or do you knock around in the belief that BA will ultimately take you on?
Just interested........
