USA PPL flight training
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Have to say on the UK / US training standards...
Get a good instructor in the US and you are miles ahead. I ve flown, (rotary), with several pilots who trained in the UK and achieved PPLs and I was APPALLED at their lack of knowledge about operational flying and the POH. One had never even heard of Density Altitude!
Get a good instructor in the US and you are miles ahead. I ve flown, (rotary), with several pilots who trained in the UK and achieved PPLs and I was APPALLED at their lack of knowledge about operational flying and the POH. One had never even heard of Density Altitude!
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As someone who myself began my training in the UK and finished in the states I would say,
The standard of airmanship taught in the UK is far higher at all the clubs I've been to.
The R/T is far briefer in the US and may make an US qualified pilot feel a little overloaded when he returns.
The UK standard of instruction is generally better.
I believe that a fear of flying in anything other than a clear blue sky may be engendered.
However,
I had reached 30+ hours when I decided to go to the states. I had probably had that many hours again cancelled due to the met. So whilst I would have loved to have completed in the UK I couldn't afford anymore TIME.
The US make GA as easy as possible - cheap fuel, friendly ATC and no landing fees, whilst it sometimes seems that the UK goes out of its way to make light aircraft unwelcome - high prices, busy airports which sometimes make GA unwelcome.
So to summarise I would recommend that people reach at least solo standard before venturing to the states (Solo standard can be reached quite quickly without requiring to much from the weather). This will hopefully give you a good sense of airmanship - not to mention enough wisdom to treat any dodgy advice with a pinch of salt!
Gaz
The standard of airmanship taught in the UK is far higher at all the clubs I've been to.
The R/T is far briefer in the US and may make an US qualified pilot feel a little overloaded when he returns.
The UK standard of instruction is generally better.
I believe that a fear of flying in anything other than a clear blue sky may be engendered.
However,
I had reached 30+ hours when I decided to go to the states. I had probably had that many hours again cancelled due to the met. So whilst I would have loved to have completed in the UK I couldn't afford anymore TIME.
The US make GA as easy as possible - cheap fuel, friendly ATC and no landing fees, whilst it sometimes seems that the UK goes out of its way to make light aircraft unwelcome - high prices, busy airports which sometimes make GA unwelcome.
So to summarise I would recommend that people reach at least solo standard before venturing to the states (Solo standard can be reached quite quickly without requiring to much from the weather). This will hopefully give you a good sense of airmanship - not to mention enough wisdom to treat any dodgy advice with a pinch of salt!
Gaz
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Trislander,
You may want to read my posting under "Are the Schools in US open over Christmas" or something like that.
I have just read this thread and never heard such a load of bollox in my life. If it were all true I don't think there would be any aircraft left flying here. Of course there are differing standards of instuction and practices but that is not nationally delinited, it's the same everywhere.
I too have flown at both UK and US training establishments, hold both CAA and FAA ATPLs, FAA CFI, CFII, MEI, and AGI, I have type ratings in Hawker HS125, BAC 1-11, Falcon 10 and Boeing 737, I have 8500+ hours so feel somewhat qualified to comment.
You may want to read my posting under "Are the Schools in US open over Christmas" or something like that.
I have just read this thread and never heard such a load of bollox in my life. If it were all true I don't think there would be any aircraft left flying here. Of course there are differing standards of instuction and practices but that is not nationally delinited, it's the same everywhere.
I too have flown at both UK and US training establishments, hold both CAA and FAA ATPLs, FAA CFI, CFII, MEI, and AGI, I have type ratings in Hawker HS125, BAC 1-11, Falcon 10 and Boeing 737, I have 8500+ hours so feel somewhat qualified to comment.
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With all of your help I have narrowed it down to Florida: it is cheaper to get to and cheaper to live/eat there. School- probably OBA because everything is included like R/T.
I will get the M-1 anyway because I don't want to chance being deported as soon as I get there. I will do some training in the UK when I have finished so that I can get used to Brit R/T and weather. I decided that if I spent all of my £ on training in the UK, I will never get it done. The weather is poor and I'll never get airbourne! I am also appreciative of those who can give me advice/experiences of Flight schools such as OBA/Naples/etc in florida. Please e-mail me. Address on the "Who?" section.
When do I organise the Class 2 Medical? before or after?
Cheers, tri
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"Ayline 221 airbourne"
I will get the M-1 anyway because I don't want to chance being deported as soon as I get there. I will do some training in the UK when I have finished so that I can get used to Brit R/T and weather. I decided that if I spent all of my £ on training in the UK, I will never get it done. The weather is poor and I'll never get airbourne! I am also appreciative of those who can give me advice/experiences of Flight schools such as OBA/Naples/etc in florida. Please e-mail me. Address on the "Who?" section.
When do I organise the Class 2 Medical? before or after?
Cheers, tri
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"Ayline 221 airbourne"
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Clear Prop,
Your point about US instruction for flying in the US is a fair point & I admit I hadn't looked at things that way. However the particular school I was at only taught JAA syllabus.
Just to give 1 simple example of the difference I found between UK/US instruction:
UK prelanding checklist : BUMFFICH
US prelanding checklist : MFC
Your point about US instruction for flying in the US is a fair point & I admit I hadn't looked at things that way. However the particular school I was at only taught JAA syllabus.
Just to give 1 simple example of the difference I found between UK/US instruction:
UK prelanding checklist : BUMFFICH
US prelanding checklist : MFC
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Class2 medicals
If you go to OBA there is a local doctor who will do it for i think 150$ which is cheaper than the UK. If your thinking about commercial you might as well get a class one after 1 year you can still use it as a class 2 and train with the limits that apply with your age.
Don't bother with the M1 i have been over there a few times now and have never bothered.
MJ
[This message has been edited by mad_jock (edited 19 June 2001).]
If you go to OBA there is a local doctor who will do it for i think 150$ which is cheaper than the UK. If your thinking about commercial you might as well get a class one after 1 year you can still use it as a class 2 and train with the limits that apply with your age.
Don't bother with the M1 i have been over there a few times now and have never bothered.
MJ
[This message has been edited by mad_jock (edited 19 June 2001).]
