ATPL books
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Pooleys are a good start but sometimes a little out of date (no disrespect meant here - but the question banks have matured based on discussions with the schools since Pooleys were published in 2000). Best material is school feedback - always.
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Hi lumpy,
The books I have (not for sale) are:
Instruments and Intergrated systems by Pallet- an excellent book, a little too in depth for the ATPL but excellent nevertheless- this is around £32.
Met for pilots by Wickerson- I think. Another excellent book- around £20.
General Navigation by Underdown. Another great book- around £30.
Hope this helps. All these books are available from Transair!
The books I have (not for sale) are:
Instruments and Intergrated systems by Pallet- an excellent book, a little too in depth for the ATPL but excellent nevertheless- this is around £32.
Met for pilots by Wickerson- I think. Another excellent book- around £20.
General Navigation by Underdown. Another great book- around £30.
Hope this helps. All these books are available from Transair!
PPRuNe Handmaiden
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From: Duit On Mon Dei
Here's my list. These books + class notes have got me through the Aust ATPL and JAR ATPL theory + numerous groundschools.
I treat them as my professional library.
Avionics Fundamentals
United Airlines
ISBN 0 89100 293 6
(gives some good descriptions of navids like VOR and NDB. Also got some Logic stuff in it)
Handling the Big Jets 3rd Edition
DP Davies
ISBN 1 56027 071 3
(still useful after all these years. Not always useful for JAR but gives a good insight into the differences between a bugsmasher and a heavy)
Aircraft Instruments and Integrated Systems
EHJ Pallet
ISBN 0 582 08627 2
32.50 quid
(Very useful book. Can be a tad "heavy" but pretty good for IRS/INS/autopilots etc. Explains basic principles of nav, gyro's etc too)
A&P Mechanics
FAA
Powerplant ISBN 0 89100 079 8
Airframe ISBN 0 89100 080 1
General ISBN 0 89100 078 X
(Brillliant series of books. Designed for an maintenance engineer so pics are detailed. Goes through pistons/super/turbo charging, fire and ice protection, propellers, electrical, hydraulic systems. Even touches on turbines. Need to bought as the series though. In Oz 6 years ago they were $30 each.
Pilot warehouse has them)
Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators
H.H. Hurt Jnr USC (Written for the US Navy)
NAVWEPS 00 80T 80
(Can be a tad deep!!! However, can be worth wading through the material. I did use it for PoF and performance)
The Jet Engine
Rolls Royce
ISBN 0902121 2 35
(brilliant book. A must for all aspiring turbine operators.
Note: Pratt and Whitney do one as well. Slightly cheaper but I believe the pics aren't as good. Don't know if you can get it in the UK)
Aircraft Performance Theory for Pilots
Pete Swatton
24.95 quid.
(invaluable for PoF, Perf and M&B Jar)
Dictionary of Aeronautical Terms
Dale Crane
ISBN 1 56027 071 3
(invaluable - every one needs this book)
Meteorology for Pilots
Mike Wickson
ISBN 1 84037 284 2
25 quid.
(Great for climatology)
Radio Telephony
CAP 413
CAA
Visual Aids Handbook
CAP 637
CAA
Human Factors for Pilots
Green Et al
ISBN 0 291 39827 8
18 quid
(good book for JAR)
Aviation Law for Pilots
Underdown and Palmer
ISBN 0 632 05335 6
28.50 quid
(not bad, pretty good for JAR OPS)
Aircraft HPL
Tony Wilson
CASA (only available in Oz- pity)
Various RAAF manuals I have aquired.
Other books that mates use and recommend for JAR.
Mechanics of Flight by Kermode 24.50 quid.
Radio Aids by Underdown and Cockburn
ISBN 0 632 05573 1
Navigation 6th Edition by Underdown and Palmer
ISBN 0 632 05333 X
Aircraft Flight by RH Barnard and DR Philpott
ISBN 0 582 23656 8
Also, check out the Mike Burton series of books. He was my lecturer.
Trevor Thom's books too. (Note, he doesn't write them any more.)
For Humour 'cos you'll need a laugh.
Bluff your way on the Flight Deck
Capt Ken Beere
ISBN 1 85304 373 7
2.99 quid
What goes up Might come down by David Gunston
(Very very funny ATCO)
on CD and tape
12.50 quid.
There you go. I have aquired these books over a few years. Great ideas for Christmas presents
Please note, the books that I use suit me. I can't speak for every one though. I would suggest that a peruse in a book store and make a comparison between several books is a great idea. I have also found that I have used the books at different times for different aspects of study.
I have now added thoughts and comments to some of the texts.
Enjoy. (remember birthdays and Christmas ideas
[ 03 December 2001: Message edited by: redsnail ]
I treat them as my professional library.
Avionics Fundamentals
United Airlines
ISBN 0 89100 293 6
(gives some good descriptions of navids like VOR and NDB. Also got some Logic stuff in it)
Handling the Big Jets 3rd Edition
DP Davies
ISBN 1 56027 071 3
(still useful after all these years. Not always useful for JAR but gives a good insight into the differences between a bugsmasher and a heavy)
Aircraft Instruments and Integrated Systems
EHJ Pallet
ISBN 0 582 08627 2
32.50 quid
(Very useful book. Can be a tad "heavy" but pretty good for IRS/INS/autopilots etc. Explains basic principles of nav, gyro's etc too)
A&P Mechanics
FAA
Powerplant ISBN 0 89100 079 8
Airframe ISBN 0 89100 080 1
General ISBN 0 89100 078 X
(Brillliant series of books. Designed for an maintenance engineer so pics are detailed. Goes through pistons/super/turbo charging, fire and ice protection, propellers, electrical, hydraulic systems. Even touches on turbines. Need to bought as the series though. In Oz 6 years ago they were $30 each.
Pilot warehouse has them)
Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators
H.H. Hurt Jnr USC (Written for the US Navy)
NAVWEPS 00 80T 80
(Can be a tad deep!!! However, can be worth wading through the material. I did use it for PoF and performance)
The Jet Engine
Rolls Royce
ISBN 0902121 2 35
(brilliant book. A must for all aspiring turbine operators.
Note: Pratt and Whitney do one as well. Slightly cheaper but I believe the pics aren't as good. Don't know if you can get it in the UK)
Aircraft Performance Theory for Pilots
Pete Swatton
24.95 quid.
(invaluable for PoF, Perf and M&B Jar)
Dictionary of Aeronautical Terms
Dale Crane
ISBN 1 56027 071 3
(invaluable - every one needs this book)
Meteorology for Pilots
Mike Wickson
ISBN 1 84037 284 2
25 quid.
(Great for climatology)
Radio Telephony
CAP 413
CAA
Visual Aids Handbook
CAP 637
CAA
Human Factors for Pilots
Green Et al
ISBN 0 291 39827 8
18 quid
(good book for JAR)
Aviation Law for Pilots
Underdown and Palmer
ISBN 0 632 05335 6
28.50 quid
(not bad, pretty good for JAR OPS)
Aircraft HPL
Tony Wilson
CASA (only available in Oz- pity)
Various RAAF manuals I have aquired.
Other books that mates use and recommend for JAR.
Mechanics of Flight by Kermode 24.50 quid.
Radio Aids by Underdown and Cockburn
ISBN 0 632 05573 1
Navigation 6th Edition by Underdown and Palmer
ISBN 0 632 05333 X
Aircraft Flight by RH Barnard and DR Philpott
ISBN 0 582 23656 8
Also, check out the Mike Burton series of books. He was my lecturer.
Trevor Thom's books too. (Note, he doesn't write them any more.)
For Humour 'cos you'll need a laugh.
Bluff your way on the Flight Deck
Capt Ken Beere
ISBN 1 85304 373 7
2.99 quid
What goes up Might come down by David Gunston
(Very very funny ATCO)
on CD and tape
12.50 quid.
There you go. I have aquired these books over a few years. Great ideas for Christmas presents
Please note, the books that I use suit me. I can't speak for every one though. I would suggest that a peruse in a book store and make a comparison between several books is a great idea. I have also found that I have used the books at different times for different aspects of study.
I have now added thoughts and comments to some of the texts.
Enjoy. (remember birthdays and Christmas ideas
[ 03 December 2001: Message edited by: redsnail ]
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i wouldn't say so because on the OAT books you don't get the feedback which goes with them. Which they hand out on the 2 week brush up.
And some of the books you don't need for the exams. comms and flight planning come to mind and also most of the pref book isn't used as well. If i remeber right the answers are 5 deg of flap or 58000 kg for any graph questions so if you already have other notes on those subjects don't bother with the full set.
MJ
And some of the books you don't need for the exams. comms and flight planning come to mind and also most of the pref book isn't used as well. If i remeber right the answers are 5 deg of flap or 58000 kg for any graph questions so if you already have other notes on those subjects don't bother with the full set.
MJ
PPRuNe Handmaiden
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From: Duit On Mon Dei
Biz,
IMHO I wouldn't bother with them unless you really like spending money. When you do your various courses you should get a text book supplied by the school/company and your class notes should be enough.
Sometimes however, I needed another "view" of the subject so I acquired a text book. I view these books as something I will be referring to long after the course has finished. (and indeed I have done so over the years) I was supplied with the 4 forces textbooks for my JAR ATPL and I didn't think much of them.
IMHO I wouldn't bother with them unless you really like spending money. When you do your various courses you should get a text book supplied by the school/company and your class notes should be enough.
Sometimes however, I needed another "view" of the subject so I acquired a text book. I view these books as something I will be referring to long after the course has finished. (and indeed I have done so over the years) I was supplied with the 4 forces textbooks for my JAR ATPL and I didn't think much of them.
