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Old 19th Oct 2017, 06:02
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CAA UK ATPL exams

What is the best question bank for caa atpl? I heard Aviationexams and Bristol ground school are the best.. but i can only choose one..
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 14:49
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Hi

I heard bristol but not used them yet.
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Old 20th Oct 2017, 02:27
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I've used both and after having switched back to AV Exam from Bristol I think Av Exam is miles ahead of Bristol

Bristol is quite nice because it's concise and to the point but I have had much more success understanding stuff on Av Exam and ultimately getting a better understanding of the subjects through AV Exam.

Try them both and see how you like them because they do both have their benefits
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Old 20th Oct 2017, 07:17
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For the UK CAA I think Bristol is the most up-to-date with the new questions and removing old ones.

Av. Exam has much better apps for Android and IPad and you can access it offline.
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Old 20th Oct 2017, 23:00
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Originally Posted by mrdeath147 View Post
What is the best question bank for caa atpl? I heard Aviationexams and Bristol ground school are the best.. but i can only choose one..
Get both for revision .....But BGS is better suited to UK Exams
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Old 21st Oct 2017, 04:03
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UK CAA/JAR CPL EXAM VS CASA CPL EXAM

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I do not know how much per written exam UK CAA charges?
In Australia, CASA charges about $150(or there about per exam) and for 7 exams that close to $1100 plus all your documents, maps (about $300).
I am just curious how much it is for CAA CPL written exam and the costs for the documents, maps etc? In Australia we use an ERSA (En Route Suplement) for airports in Australia and nav. requirements for airways.
What Document for UK airports are in use?
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68 per exam in the UK, 13 for the CPL, 14 for the ATP.
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Old 28th Oct 2017, 09:49
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Regarding question banks, I used AE but tried out BGS for comparison for a week prior.
They are very similar but I found AE has more questions, has already implemented the new question format (dropdown boxes with text selection, tick multiple boxes, enter number for answer). I personally found the user interface of AE better, especially the retest wrong answers, sync with offline iPad/iPhone apps. Explanations are generally quite good but some are lengthy and/or not tailored specifically to individual questions. You only see these if you click on the tab, such as when you get stuck or pick the wrong answer. I found this a good way to deal with questions as I progressed.

BGS seemed to have a slightly smaller question bank, which may be an advantage if this is because it has dropped the more obtuse questions that don't appear. Extensive search and filter functions. I only used this on a computer and found it displayed a brief and helpful explanation after you selected an answer, no choice to look at this first.

With EASA adding thousands of new questions to the QB annually, I'd expect the online QBs to diverge more from what you actually get in a test. They do prepare you, especially on exam/answering technique, and reinforce the key learning points, so remain an essential tool in the ATPL TK learning process.


Regarding price
UK CAA exam fees went up in April 2017 to 69 per exam.
Guidance states that some of the UK CAA foreign exam centres may charge more.
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Old 28th Oct 2017, 16:53
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Originally Posted by SunnyDayInWiltshire View Post
With EASA adding thousands of new questions to the QB annually, I'd expect the online QBs to diverge more from what you actually get in a test.
They are adding questions but 'thousands' a year is a slight exaggeration, the vast majority of questions have not changed and what you see in avexam is at least 80/85% of what you see in the CAA exam, if not more, and for some subjects it was even more with everything having been present in the bank for 1 of them.
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Old 29th Oct 2017, 14:56
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Originally Posted by momo95 View Post
They are adding questions but 'thousands' a year is a slight exaggeration, the vast majority of questions have not changed and what you see in avexam is at least 80/85% of what you see in the CAA exam, if not more, and for some subjects it was even more with everything having been present in the bank for 1 of them.
I took 3 exams a while ago and only 1 exam was similar to the QB

HP was more like 50% of the QB and the other 50% was stuff I had never seen before or reworked and changed around significantly.

I definitely wouldn't sit any exams without getting 90% in exams especially with the new Quadrant system
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Deanna41 it's different in the UK/Europe regarding the exams and the docs you need. I did my conversion way back in 2001 and I think I bought a student pack to study from. As for the AIP and other regulatory docs, you should be given extracts.
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Old 29th Oct 2017, 15:45
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Originally Posted by Negan View Post
I took 3 exams a while ago and only 1 exam was similar to the QB

HP was more like 50% of the QB and the other 50% was stuff I had never seen before or reworked and changed around significantly.

I definitely wouldn't sit any exams without getting 90% in exams especially with the new Quadrant system
Then perhaps it depends on what authority you sit them in
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Old 29th Oct 2017, 16:10
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They all use the same questions.

The only difference is when they implement certain questions and that is at their own discretion.
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Exactly. So then why are you saying that you had stuff which you hadn't seen before mostly yet all my exams were for the vast majority of the questions stuff I had seen numerous times before.

It's really not good to try to cause panic for people who haven't sat any exams yet. On an 80 question exam there were about 10 new questions, that is a very low number when considering the overall picture. For some of the smaller subjects like M&B there were no new ones at all, if there were then they perhaps changed a number or 2 in one of the calculations, which is nothing really, you wouldn't even notice.

Anyway, to the OP I advise aviationexam, it is leagues ahead of BGS for the exam questions and the explanations.
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Old 29th Oct 2017, 17:55
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As I explained 1 exam was similar to the QB

Human Performance was 50% QB for me and the rest I had not seen before. Even the questions which seemed to be from the QB looked to have been reworded and changed

The 3rd subject was maybe 70% QB maybe with a lot of new questions.

Everyone has different experiences and mine was with the UK CAA and other students as well confirmed their HP exam was much different to the QB who also sat it at the same time as me
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Old 29th Oct 2017, 18:08
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But this is it and it's where people have to be very careful. Too many people go into the exam and when they see something worded slightly different they panic. We need to relax and realise they are asking the same stuff they always had, the QBs rely (or so they claim to) on feedback from students who have sat their exams. They only receive stuff in bits for many of the questions and so the wording may not be exact, but it is still the same question
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Old 29th Oct 2017, 18:12
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What I can 100% say is when I say "different" it means it wasn't an accurate representation of the same question in the QB

For me personally speaking it was not even close to being similar from the questions in the QB.

50% of it was QB definitely but the other 50% was completely different, I was so worried I failed the exam because there was so much stuff in there that was different but in hindsight it's an easy exam and some questions can be answered with common knowledge that the average Joe could answer down the street

There was definitely a big difference in that particular subject compared to the QB that is why I singled that one subject out
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 11:10
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For what I heard, whith the Quadrant system they added lot's of questions on Air Law, OPS, Comms. With the rest some say that they are completely new, others say the opposite. It would seem strange to me that they changed entirely the exams. Even if it's true it's only a matter of time that the question banks catch up with this.

I will be sitting my first round on december, fingers crossed.
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 12:02
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Having watched them for a while, I think that there are differences between Authorities as to how they draw questions from the CQB, probably dependant on the exam software they use.

I understand that some draw exams from the entire CQB, and that would mean that two candidates sitting the same subject on the same date would have quite different exams and quite different annexes.

Some Authorities seem to draw a sample of questions from the CQB, no idea how many, say 200 a subject, do their own validation on those questions as far as they are able, then select the questions for their exams from their more limited sample. This would mean that all their candidates have similar exams, with the same questions coming up repeatedly and the same annexes. I think the UK CAA do this, and choose the newest questions for their sample. Presumably they change the sample after a period and a whole new batch of questions arrives.

This is speculation only, based on the feedback we get.
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 12:12
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So, we just have to pray to not get on one of the new cycles.
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