Have to re-do ATPL theory exams...please help
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How hard to get it in EASA... I got my full ATP in Brazil with only 1,500 flight hours in a Cessna 152 (as Flight instrutor), our ground test is about Performance and Weight and Balance (40 questions) and then 1.5 (01:30) hours flying a Piper Sêneca (SID, 1 VOR and 1 FULL ILS)
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I too passed my ATPL exams but then lost the validity as I couldn't get the flying done within the required time for medical reasons.
I have been thinking about giving it another go but always thought I would have to do the full course, brush ups, it didn't occur to me that I might not need to do full course until I read this post.
However the exams were done a while ago though, 2007 with Oxford and I imagine things have changed a bit.
Who decides if I have to do full theory course again? the CAA ?
I have been thinking about giving it another go but always thought I would have to do the full course, brush ups, it didn't occur to me that I might not need to do full course until I read this post.
However the exams were done a while ago though, 2007 with Oxford and I imagine things have changed a bit.
Who decides if I have to do full theory course again? the CAA ?
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From: Orlando
Thanks again everyone for all the help.
I finally got a response from the UK CAA with a surprisingly good piece of news that I'm exempt from taking the VFR comms exam!
Its been 9 years since I did these exams but the studying has been going great so far and all the info seems to be familiar and palpable. POF drives me in circles sometimes but for the most part I'm getting through fine. Planning to take 5 exams towards the end of January.
Can anyone recall if formulas for any of the exams such as Instrumentation or Radio Nav are provided? I'm coming across a lot of the study material trying to figure out if I need the formulas committed to memory or not.
Have a wonderful new year everyone and again thanks for the support during this period.
I finally got a response from the UK CAA with a surprisingly good piece of news that I'm exempt from taking the VFR comms exam!
Its been 9 years since I did these exams but the studying has been going great so far and all the info seems to be familiar and palpable. POF drives me in circles sometimes but for the most part I'm getting through fine. Planning to take 5 exams towards the end of January.
Can anyone recall if formulas for any of the exams such as Instrumentation or Radio Nav are provided? I'm coming across a lot of the study material trying to figure out if I need the formulas committed to memory or not.
Have a wonderful new year everyone and again thanks for the support during this period.
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This pdf might come handy: http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~zyox/ATPL%20summary.pdf
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From: Orlando
Thank you Red Bull,
The PDF is very useful, I'll be sure to reference it during my studies. Seeing that there are indeed many formulas and equations for these subjects, are any of them provided during the exams? Should I commit to memory?
The PDF is very useful, I'll be sure to reference it during my studies. Seeing that there are indeed many formulas and equations for these subjects, are any of them provided during the exams? Should I commit to memory?
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I thought I'd add to this instead of starting a new thread - as it may become relevant later on..
FCL.025(c)(1) The successful completion of the theoretical knowledge examinations will be valid:
(i) for the issue* of a light aircraft pilot licence, a private pilot licence, a
sailplane pilot licence or a balloon pilot licence, for a period of 24 months;
(ii) for the issue* of a commercial pilot licence, instrument rating (IR) or en
route instrument rating (EIR), for a period of 36 months;
Let's say you've skipped PPL exams and done CPL exams - crediting them toward the PPL [per FCL.035(b)(2)]
Do you get 24 months or 36 months to complete your PPL?
FCL.025(c)(1) The successful completion of the theoretical knowledge examinations will be valid:
(i) for the issue* of a light aircraft pilot licence, a private pilot licence, a
sailplane pilot licence or a balloon pilot licence, for a period of 24 months;
(ii) for the issue* of a commercial pilot licence, instrument rating (IR) or en
route instrument rating (EIR), for a period of 36 months;
Let's say you've skipped PPL exams and done CPL exams - crediting them toward the PPL [per FCL.035(b)(2)]
Do you get 24 months or 36 months to complete your PPL?
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From: Orlando
Hello again everyone. Just finished my first 5 exams without any problem. Only 8 to go!
Anyone know when the last update for the JAR jeppesen manual was done? I'm using the old one I had back in 2006 but I don't know if there have been any additions or updates to it since. Also can anyone confirm if CAP 696, 697, and 698 are still the same versions last updated July 2006.
Thanks again everyone!
Anyone know when the last update for the JAR jeppesen manual was done? I'm using the old one I had back in 2006 but I don't know if there have been any additions or updates to it since. Also can anyone confirm if CAP 696, 697, and 698 are still the same versions last updated July 2006.
Thanks again everyone!
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All the same. The Jep manual is frozen in time, although other manufacturers will be invited to come in with their own versions in the future. It won't affect you though.
Make sure you have the up to date versions of the CAPS, though. Be prepared for graphs in questions that are not in them.
Make sure you have the up to date versions of the CAPS, though. Be prepared for graphs in questions that are not in them.
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From: Orlando
Good day ladies and gents,
Just finished my second batch of exams with success! So far I have finished re-taking 9 of the 13 required ATPL exams. So only 4 to go. To be honest at first I thought it would be much more daunting but as I'm going through these exams a lot of the material is so familiar and the rest requires a bit of studying.
I bring this up as motivation to anyone stuck in the situation I am where you have to re-take these EASA ATPL exams. Come forward with a positive attitude and take it as a personal challenge. You will only find that these exams are not only passable but also a good refresher in some areas. Although I will admit that about 70-80% of the material is completely irrelevant to flying in a modern multi-crew environment.
Just finished my second batch of exams with success! So far I have finished re-taking 9 of the 13 required ATPL exams. So only 4 to go. To be honest at first I thought it would be much more daunting but as I'm going through these exams a lot of the material is so familiar and the rest requires a bit of studying.
I bring this up as motivation to anyone stuck in the situation I am where you have to re-take these EASA ATPL exams. Come forward with a positive attitude and take it as a personal challenge. You will only find that these exams are not only passable but also a good refresher in some areas. Although I will admit that about 70-80% of the material is completely irrelevant to flying in a modern multi-crew environment.
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Good day ladies and gents,
Just finished my second batch of exams with success! So far I have finished re-taking 9 of the 13 required ATPL exams. So only 4 to go. To be honest at first I thought it would be much more daunting but as I'm going through these exams a lot of the material is so familiar and the rest requires a bit of studying.
I bring this up as motivation to anyone stuck in the situation I am where you have to re-take these EASA ATPL exams. Come forward with a positive attitude and take it as a personal challenge. You will only find that these exams are not only passable but also a good refresher in some areas. Although I will admit that about 70-80% of the material is completely irrelevant to flying in a modern multi-crew environment.
Just finished my second batch of exams with success! So far I have finished re-taking 9 of the 13 required ATPL exams. So only 4 to go. To be honest at first I thought it would be much more daunting but as I'm going through these exams a lot of the material is so familiar and the rest requires a bit of studying.
I bring this up as motivation to anyone stuck in the situation I am where you have to re-take these EASA ATPL exams. Come forward with a positive attitude and take it as a personal challenge. You will only find that these exams are not only passable but also a good refresher in some areas. Although I will admit that about 70-80% of the material is completely irrelevant to flying in a modern multi-crew environment.
Am I right in saying that you did not have to do any brush ups. I have nearly completed modules 1 and 2 for BGS. I was buying myself some time saving money as I was told I have to do the entire brush up again at Bristol. I was quoted nealy 2k.
If this is not the case I will more than challenge it. From what I have made of it from the CAP804, remedial training is as required. Seems like abit of a grey area. I have to say after studying the subjects thouroughly and going by my comprehensive notes from 09, there seems to not be a lot of change in terms of syllabus. I totally get that the exam banks would have changed but that's nothing that the BGS online Q bank could not help with. Your feedback would be great. 👍
