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Old 16th Apr 2016, 14:21
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Hi everybody,
Need your help and assistance on the specfic case I wonder some of colleagues would have met. Is there any example of MPL to CPL conversion known to you?
If yes please advise on known requirenments in scope of procedures, flight hours or any other way of MPL to CPL conversion. Thanks to everybody in advane!!
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Oh my goodness....
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If you have finished the MPL course then you have a CPL. If you haven't finished the course then as I understand it the most you can walk away with is a PPL. You may be able to obtain CPL theory credits from your authority, and maybe some flight credits. I'm assuming you haven't completed the MPL course?
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They don't get any CPL! All what they get is a MPL licence and once they have the experience an ATPL! MPL training trains pilots to operate in a Multi-Crew environment, pilots are not prepared to operate in a Single pilot commercial operation and in fact, it will dangerous to let them operate in such a way!
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There is a formal route for MPL to CPL.

Assuming that you have been issued with a MPL, you will have already completed the type rating and LST, and the base training.
Unless you completed the actual PPL licence items during the MPL course, I dont think you have a PPL as part of this professional licence.

If you now want a CPL, then it would be possible by completing what amounts to the shortfall in SE & ME flying, and the appropriate flight tests for CPL issue. If a single pilot IR is required, then the initial iRST is necessary. Plug the gaps to achieve the minimum experience.

You are best to discuss this with an ATO who have MPL experience.

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maybe this excerpt helps

FCL.325.A CPL(A) * Specific conditions for MPL holders
Before exercising the privileges of a CPL(A), the holder of an MPL shall have completed in aeroplanes:
(a) 70 hours flight time:
(1) as pilot*in*command; or
(2) made up of at least 10 hours as pilot*in*command and the additional flight time as pilot*in* command under supervision (PICUS).
Of these 70 hours, 20 shall be of VFR cross*country flight time as pilot*in*command, or cross* country flight time made up of at least 10 hours as pilot*in*command and 10 hours as PICUS. This shall include a VFR cross*country flight of at least 540 km (300 NM) in the course of which full*stop landings at two different aerodromes shall be flown as pilot*in*command;
(b) the elements of the CPL(A) modular course as specified in paragraphs 11(a) and 12 of Appendix 3. D; and
(c) the CPL(A) skill test, in accordance with FCL.320.
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Originally Posted by mavisbacon View Post
If you have finished the MPL course then you have a CPL. If you haven't finished the course then as I understand it the most you can walk away with is a PPL. You may be able to obtain CPL theory credits from your authority, and maybe some flight credits. I'm assuming you haven't completed the MPL course?
Thank you for your comment. I currently posses the MPL but looking to convert it to CPL. That is why kindly asked for opinion of senior colleagues before applying to CAA.

Originally Posted by EC DKN View Post
They don't get any CPL! All what they get is a MPL licence and once they have the experience an ATPL! MPL training trains pilots to operate in a Multi-Crew environment, pilots are not prepared to operate in a Single pilot commercial operation and in fact, it will dangerous to let them operate in such a way!
Thanks for your comment!

Originally Posted by parkfell View Post
There is a formal route for MPL to CPL.

Assuming that you have been issued with a MPL, you will have already completed the type rating and LST, and the base training.
Unless you completed the actual PPL licence items during the MPL course, I dont think you have a PPL as part of this professional licence.

If you now want a CPL, then it would be possible by completing what amounts to the shortfall in SE & ME flying, and the appropriate flight tests for CPL issue. If a single pilot IR is required, then the initial iRST is necessary. Plug the gaps to achieve the minimum experience.

You are best to discuss this with an ATO who have MPL experience.
Thank you Sir, that what I actually would expect from CAA however wonder if there is certain transition program probably applicable at other countries.

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maybe this excerpt helps

FCL.325.A CPL(A) * Specific conditions for MPL holders
Before exercising the privileges of a CPL(A), the holder of an MPL shall have completed in aeroplanes:
(a) 70 hours flight time:
(1) as pilot*in*command; or
(2) made up of at least 10 hours as pilot*in*command and the additional flight time as pilot*in* command under supervision (PICUS).
Of these 70 hours, 20 shall be of VFR cross*country flight time as pilot*in*command, or cross* country flight time made up of at least 10 hours as pilot*in*command and 10 hours as PICUS. This shall include a VFR cross*country flight of at least 540 km (300 NM) in the course of which full*stop landings at two different aerodromes shall be flown as pilot*in*command;
(b) the elements of the CPL(A) modular course as specified in paragraphs 11(a) and 12 of Appendix 3. D; and
(c) the CPL(A) skill test, in accordance with FCL.320.
Great! Thank you for such expanded reply.Seems like it may be used as a reference. Now gonna surf the web for the EASA FCL doc in order to have more detailed info.
Thanks!!
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