CPL X-Countrys
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CPL X-Countrys
Evening all,
Not too sure whether this thread should be here or in private flying, so I started it in both
I'm hoping to get some suggestions for a CPL qualifying XCountry flight. Flying from somewhere out of north east london and hopefully returning there a few hours later
Any suggestions are welcome, even the 'head soak go' type.
BTW; does anyway know where the 300 nm that's quoted by the CAA is as the crow flies or actual distance travelled? If so would 100 or so circuits count
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Not too sure whether this thread should be here or in private flying, so I started it in both
I'm hoping to get some suggestions for a CPL qualifying XCountry flight. Flying from somewhere out of north east london and hopefully returning there a few hours later
Any suggestions are welcome, even the 'head soak go' type.
BTW; does anyway know where the 300 nm that's quoted by the CAA is as the crow flies or actual distance travelled? If so would 100 or so circuits count
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It is as the crow flies, they don't take dodgy navigational legs into account!
Bear in mind that you don't need to return to your departure airfield. So why not strike out a little further.
For my flight I flew Bristol, Land's End, Exeter, Southend on Sea, - stayed overnight and then flew back to Bristol.
Or the other suggestion is plot a flight between the free landing fees in a certain aviation magazine. Have fun!
Bear in mind that you don't need to return to your departure airfield. So why not strike out a little further.
For my flight I flew Bristol, Land's End, Exeter, Southend on Sea, - stayed overnight and then flew back to Bristol.
Or the other suggestion is plot a flight between the free landing fees in a certain aviation magazine. Have fun!
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As the crow flies?
I know I've asked this before, but does anyone know for sure that the CPL X-Country is 'as the crow flies '? If so could you point me to a reference for this.
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Still on the same subject, does the cross-country for CPL have to be recorded in any special way or does the Log Book suffice? Will boys and girls at CAA really bring out their ( newly updated of course !!) map of scotland and count the X number of nm's from Prestwick to Oban to Perth etc or is it more of a rough guess?
Cheers for any answers!!
Cheers for any answers!!
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Well, to answer my own question, both JAR-FCL 1 and the CAA GID24 refer to it as
Note, nothing about it being 'as the crow flies'. I do however remember seeing something that specified the flight had to be conducted in one day, so maybe that refered to the measurement as well. Perhaps somebody who has a copy of the AMC could have a look 
a cross-country flight of at least 540km (300 nm) in the course of which fullstop landings at two aerodromes different from the aerodromes of departure
Why do it if it's not fun?
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And, since we're on the subject, do all the legs have to on the same day? Or within 24 hours? Or is there any time restriction at all? I've heard that they need to be on the same day, but if someone could confirm it...
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The qualifing cross country.
1) has to be completed in a 24hrs period,it has to be over 300nm(540 km)and you must complete 2 full stop landings at 2 different airfields from that of departure.
2)you may if you wish do a dog leg etc (this may be to use a VOR for navigation purposes etc).
3)You way carry passengers as long as you are sole P1.
4)an entry in your log book will surfice for recording purposes.
VORTIME, yes if you do complete a 300nm+ trip it can be counted towards your CPL but must meet the CAA requirements.
PIL, circuits donot count as they are not classed as X COUNTRY you need to leave the ATZ.
Gazeem has it right,why not use the free landing vouchers in a said mag and save a few quid.
Lastly viewing a few posts do i detect a lack of confidence because a few are trying to take the easy option,i.e circuits,dodgy legs etc.
Get a mate plan a route and spread your wings and go and have a great time, Because at the end of the day thats what its all about.
1) has to be completed in a 24hrs period,it has to be over 300nm(540 km)and you must complete 2 full stop landings at 2 different airfields from that of departure.
2)you may if you wish do a dog leg etc (this may be to use a VOR for navigation purposes etc).
3)You way carry passengers as long as you are sole P1.
4)an entry in your log book will surfice for recording purposes.
VORTIME, yes if you do complete a 300nm+ trip it can be counted towards your CPL but must meet the CAA requirements.
PIL, circuits donot count as they are not classed as X COUNTRY you need to leave the ATZ.
Gazeem has it right,why not use the free landing vouchers in a said mag and save a few quid.
Lastly viewing a few posts do i detect a lack of confidence because a few are trying to take the easy option,i.e circuits,dodgy legs etc.
Get a mate plan a route and spread your wings and go and have a great time, Because at the end of the day thats what its all about.
Why do it if it's not fun?
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No lack of confidence from me!
I completed an "unplanned" 300nm, two-full-stop-landings trip earlier this year, when I needed to, erm, make a toilet stop during a long cross country! Not sure if it would count since I didn't return until the next day - but if it does count, would be nice to know so that I don't have to worry about doing another one!
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I completed an "unplanned" 300nm, two-full-stop-landings trip earlier this year, when I needed to, erm, make a toilet stop during a long cross country! Not sure if it would count since I didn't return until the next day - but if it does count, would be nice to know so that I don't have to worry about doing another one!
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I flew Plettenberg Bay - Beaufort West - Swellendam - Plettenberg Bay in ZS-KBK in the same day, over the same Outeniqua Mountains into which Hansie Cronje has just crashed.
Sorry, unrelated I know, just good memories. Sigh.
The CAA never raised an eyebrow with the slightly exotic South African destinations, though. They probably didn't even bother looking on a map.
cheers!
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Sorry, unrelated I know, just good memories. Sigh.
The CAA never raised an eyebrow with the slightly exotic South African destinations, though. They probably didn't even bother looking on a map.
cheers!
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Had a cool time when I done mine:
Ft.Pierce, Naples, Homestead, Keywest Intl, Homestead, Tamiami, Ft. Pierce FL.
Sunny skies, 400nms and 7hrs later I finished it.
Soz, unrelated 2, but just fondly looking back...
Ft.Pierce, Naples, Homestead, Keywest Intl, Homestead, Tamiami, Ft. Pierce FL.
Sunny skies, 400nms and 7hrs later I finished it.
Soz, unrelated 2, but just fondly looking back...
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Last week I flew a C150 from Germany (near Polish border), down through France and over to Mallorca. 6 full stop landings at everywhere from large airports through to grass strips.
I guess this qualifies as my x- country, does it?
It just felt like fun to me!!
I guess this qualifies as my x- country, does it?
It just felt like fun to me!!
