Hour building Europe
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Hour building Europe
Hi all,
I'm really becoming mad in trying to find the best solution for my hour building program. Since few months ago I would have surely chosen USA, but now this solution became not so cheap considering the reduced exchange rate EUR/USD. The Euro lost all it's advantage against USD and considering that for hour building you must also take into account the travel, housing, car rental, food and exc for me it turned impossible.
So I started to look for some good/cheap place in the Europe excluding Italy (where I'm living now) due to Italian high taxes and fuel costs.
I still don't find one good flight school or club so I wonder if there is someone who had recent experience in Europe and could recommend something.
I'm really becoming mad in trying to find the best solution for my hour building program. Since few months ago I would have surely chosen USA, but now this solution became not so cheap considering the reduced exchange rate EUR/USD. The Euro lost all it's advantage against USD and considering that for hour building you must also take into account the travel, housing, car rental, food and exc for me it turned impossible.
So I started to look for some good/cheap place in the Europe excluding Italy (where I'm living now) due to Italian high taxes and fuel costs.
I still don't find one good flight school or club so I wonder if there is someone who had recent experience in Europe and could recommend something.
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Atlantic flight training academy in Cork, ireland, do your building passages Atlantic Flight Training Academy, Professional Pilot Training
Bartolini Air in Poland also offer it in a Tecnam, Bartolini Air EASA Flight Training Organisation - Fly in Poland
Bartolini Air in Poland also offer it in a Tecnam, Bartolini Air EASA Flight Training Organisation - Fly in Poland
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As already mentioned above, I'd be looking towards Poland, since they don't have the Euro yet, still using the Polish Zloty. Besides Bartolini Air, which has a very good reputation, I'd also have a look at Samrtaero.pl/en. Perhaps an alternative, ever considered becoming a member at a (local) flying club, charter rates for club members are usually quite affordable.
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Further to the well known schools like Bartolini air in Poland etc. I thought also about Malta. Prices are similar to the other schools and weather is better than in the northern Europe.
What do you think about it? Anyone knows something about flying in Malta?
The only problem I find is that the airport is also for commercial flights but I don't know the traffic flow.
What do you think about it? Anyone knows something about flying in Malta?
The only problem I find is that the airport is also for commercial flights but I don't know the traffic flow.
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If you are in Italy, Croatia is pretty close by, if you want to see if the rates fit you (100€ for the blocks of DA20). Accommodation is cheap.
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Last edited by yxcvmnb; 7th February 2015 at 13:32.
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However be aware that if you fly something like the DA20, which has a MTOW equal or less than 750 KG you are actually logging time on a VLA and not a fully recognised GA plane... If that's important for you of course..
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Don't worry, the DA-20 is perfectly fine for logging hours, it's a SEP class airplane. In fact you cannot log any other time on it but SEP....
A large large number of schools use them for flight training.
A large large number of schools use them for flight training.
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Building Night Time in Europe?
Question for an acquaintance who wants to build night time in Europe.
Is the DA-20 certified/equiped for N-VFR? And for IFR? (latter probably not)
N-VFR allowed in Croatian airspace?
Other types / countries, with attactive prices like those mentioned for Croatia?
Is the DA-20 certified/equiped for N-VFR? And for IFR? (latter probably not)
N-VFR allowed in Croatian airspace?
Other types / countries, with attactive prices like those mentioned for Croatia?
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Thank you yxcvmnb for your info.
After some evaluations I'm arrived to choose between 2 schools that are Flying Academy in Czech Rep. and Bartolini air for costs. However the one big concern is the weather in the eastern Europe so is necessary to choose also the best period to go there and fly!
Really difficult to find the best solution
After some evaluations I'm arrived to choose between 2 schools that are Flying Academy in Czech Rep. and Bartolini air for costs. However the one big concern is the weather in the eastern Europe so is necessary to choose also the best period to go there and fly!
Really difficult to find the best solution
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Bartolini Air
Don't know if anyone is interested but my recent investigations with Bartolini Air has resulted in the following information for hours building.
Here is the package which they mentioned:
* 75 hours Package
* Tecnam P2002 - G500 Glass Cockpit (5 in the fleet in total)
* €116 Euro's per hour.. which equates to about £86 per hour.
* 75 hours = €8700/£6473.
Additional:
Before letting you loose on a Tecnam you have to do:
* 2 hour introduction lecture - €200 Euros
* 3 hours aircraft familiarisation - €148 per hour = €444/£330.
€200 euros for a lecture seems a bit much to me for groundschool.. No??
All in €9344 or £6952 exclusive of flights and accomodation.
Opinions?
Here is the package which they mentioned:
* 75 hours Package
* Tecnam P2002 - G500 Glass Cockpit (5 in the fleet in total)
* €116 Euro's per hour.. which equates to about £86 per hour.
* 75 hours = €8700/£6473.
Additional:
Before letting you loose on a Tecnam you have to do:
* 2 hour introduction lecture - €200 Euros
* 3 hours aircraft familiarisation - €148 per hour = €444/£330.
€200 euros for a lecture seems a bit much to me for groundschool.. No??
All in €9344 or £6952 exclusive of flights and accomodation.
Opinions?
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That is certainly competitive with the GBP rate.
Don't know what the weather is like in Hungary though but at this time of the year it should start easing up...
Is it CAP 804 to reference whether the Aero AT3 is suitable for hours building?
Don't know what the weather is like in Hungary though but at this time of the year it should start easing up...
Is it CAP 804 to reference whether the Aero AT3 is suitable for hours building?
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From: Around the corner
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From: Around the corner
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Flying Academy in CZ has been around for a while, I did mine there around 2009-2010 and was overall happy with it, Good availability on airplanes and Nice places to fly and visit from Cz, specially from Brno.