PPL!!!!
PPL!!!!
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Well done lads and welcome aboard 
Solo x-country will scare the bejaysus out of you....until you get airbourne then everything is fine....just remember should you get "lost" dont panic, the aircraft doesnt know and will keep flying..keep your head.
Good Luck....
Solo x-country will scare the bejaysus out of you....until you get airbourne then everything is fine....just remember should you get "lost" dont panic, the aircraft doesnt know and will keep flying..keep your head.
Good Luck....
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Congrats on the solo...its something that i am sure you never forget!
Nice one on the PPL skills test! First attempt?
- actually I wonder how many do pass on first attempt??
Got my QXC next monday weather permitting!!
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Nice one on the PPL skills test! First attempt?
- actually I wonder how many do pass on first attempt??
Got my QXC next monday weather permitting!!
[This message has been edited by FartPower (edited 07 June 2001).]
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Well its been nearly a week now since i passed my skills test, but nothing seems different. I havent taken my girlfriend flying because i am waiting for my license and i havent flown because it costs 200 quid for the license issue.
Will i get the 'real' pilot feeliong when i take people flying, when i get my license or when i finally make it to instructor standards??
Will i get the 'real' pilot feeliong when i take people flying, when i get my license or when i finally make it to instructor standards??
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You get it when you take non flyers up.
It is acually quite stressfull the first few times. You have to gauge them and see if they are happy with everything thats going on. If its their first time in a GA plane makesure you have a sick bag (i learnt this the hard way.)
Always remember your safety briefings and don't throw it around doing stall's, spins or steep turns. And if you do let someone have a shot from the right handside watch out for them getting a death grip on the controls.
MJ
It is acually quite stressfull the first few times. You have to gauge them and see if they are happy with everything thats going on. If its their first time in a GA plane makesure you have a sick bag (i learnt this the hard way.)
Always remember your safety briefings and don't throw it around doing stall's, spins or steep turns. And if you do let someone have a shot from the right handside watch out for them getting a death grip on the controls.
MJ
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The overwhelming majority of the PPL 'applicants' I've examined have passed first time with little difficulty.
Weak areas (this might help some of you to revise):
1. Forced landings
2. Not using a sound rigorous visual navigation technique but relying on feature crawling and reading 'ground to map'. This will INVARIABLY result in a partial pass at best.
3. Not listening to ATC and poor use of RT.
4. Recoveries from spiral descents.
To be honest, by the time you get to the Skill Test you should be good enough to pass without worry if you've been trained properly. Don't listen to all this rubbish about carrying bottles of water and chocolate bars - there really is no need. Normally you'll just take off and start your first leg of the navex with the Examiner just wanting to be told your ETA at the first turning point and any correction you later apply. He/she'll know what you're doing and won't comment unless absolutely necessary. On the second leg you'll get a diversion to somewhere - but you only set off for the diversion WHEN YOU ARE READY!! If the diversion aerodrome is amenable, I will require an applicant to join for an overhead join and a normal circuit and go-around. Once you've done that, the Examiner will look after the navigation and ask you to do a couple of steep turns, some stalls and will later introduce a simulated engine failure. You'll be told to go-around as soon as the Examiner is happy that you would have made the field; you'll probably then just climb at best angle with a couple of turns to look after the 'flight at critically low speed' requirement, then climb at best rate up to about 2000ft and set off home. On the way you'll fix your position at some stage by use of radio navigation aids except GPS or asking ground radar, track towards a suitable beacon for 5 minutes and then join your familiar home aerodrome for a normal, a glide, a flapless and a 'bad weather' circuit with an EFATO at some stage. And that's about it - at some stage the Examiner will ask the odd technical question to confirm your level of knowledge is OK, but it is FAR less stressful than a driving test, believe me!
But please make sure your FLWOPs are sound!!
Weak areas (this might help some of you to revise):
1. Forced landings
2. Not using a sound rigorous visual navigation technique but relying on feature crawling and reading 'ground to map'. This will INVARIABLY result in a partial pass at best.
3. Not listening to ATC and poor use of RT.
4. Recoveries from spiral descents.
To be honest, by the time you get to the Skill Test you should be good enough to pass without worry if you've been trained properly. Don't listen to all this rubbish about carrying bottles of water and chocolate bars - there really is no need. Normally you'll just take off and start your first leg of the navex with the Examiner just wanting to be told your ETA at the first turning point and any correction you later apply. He/she'll know what you're doing and won't comment unless absolutely necessary. On the second leg you'll get a diversion to somewhere - but you only set off for the diversion WHEN YOU ARE READY!! If the diversion aerodrome is amenable, I will require an applicant to join for an overhead join and a normal circuit and go-around. Once you've done that, the Examiner will look after the navigation and ask you to do a couple of steep turns, some stalls and will later introduce a simulated engine failure. You'll be told to go-around as soon as the Examiner is happy that you would have made the field; you'll probably then just climb at best angle with a couple of turns to look after the 'flight at critically low speed' requirement, then climb at best rate up to about 2000ft and set off home. On the way you'll fix your position at some stage by use of radio navigation aids except GPS or asking ground radar, track towards a suitable beacon for 5 minutes and then join your familiar home aerodrome for a normal, a glide, a flapless and a 'bad weather' circuit with an EFATO at some stage. And that's about it - at some stage the Examiner will ask the odd technical question to confirm your level of knowledge is OK, but it is FAR less stressful than a driving test, believe me!
But please make sure your FLWOPs are sound!!
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Well done to you all on your achievments. I passed my skill test last month out in Florida. Did all the training on a 152, then had to sit the test on a new 172 due to weight problems (and I'm only 190lbs!!), and I didn't even try it out first!! Then, as we were heading back to the airfield, one of the students, flying solo, issued a mayday as he was pissing smoke from his Katana. Had to do a bit of searching for him in a field, for a student pilot he did a tremendous job.
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Listen to BEagle guys, these are wise words indeed. In fact, listen to your instructor and not your compatriots. We all get a little bit scared or worried now and then but wading into an excercise with the notion that it will 'scare the s#it out of you' will not help matters.
From the point of view of what is it like to do your first 'PPL' flight with pax, be honest with yourself, if in doubt ask!
20 something years ago I called for taxi (proud dad sat next to me) and was cleared to taxi via the Northern taxiway to hold at Bravo 27.........what the hell was this?....must be the one I always used.....I thought about it for a few seconds then decided to taxi the 'usual way' so that I don't look a right twit in front of my dad!
........about 30 seconds later I received a RIGHT ROYAL BLASTING from the tower for going the wrong way on the WRONG taxiway!.....well, my dad and everyone else heard this alright!.......and me? yes I really did feel stupid!........lesson learnt, if in doubt, ask.
JWF
From the point of view of what is it like to do your first 'PPL' flight with pax, be honest with yourself, if in doubt ask!
20 something years ago I called for taxi (proud dad sat next to me) and was cleared to taxi via the Northern taxiway to hold at Bravo 27.........what the hell was this?....must be the one I always used.....I thought about it for a few seconds then decided to taxi the 'usual way' so that I don't look a right twit in front of my dad!
........about 30 seconds later I received a RIGHT ROYAL BLASTING from the tower for going the wrong way on the WRONG taxiway!.....well, my dad and everyone else heard this alright!.......and me? yes I really did feel stupid!........lesson learnt, if in doubt, ask.
JWF
