PPL to Commercial Twin
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PPL to Commercial Twin
I turn 30 next year and I plan to finish my PPL before then.
Next plan is to go Commercial and obtain my Twin engine rating.
I would like to start a career as a pilot flying regional routes on ATR 's ect or fly cargo.
Is getting to Commercial Twin good enough to apply to Airlines for regional or Cargo employment?
Currently living in Ireland but will fly in.the states as the weather is a tad bit better
Next plan is to go Commercial and obtain my Twin engine rating.
I would like to start a career as a pilot flying regional routes on ATR 's ect or fly cargo.
Is getting to Commercial Twin good enough to apply to Airlines for regional or Cargo employment?
Currently living in Ireland but will fly in.the states as the weather is a tad bit better
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Yes and no.
In theory it would be enough to apply, but in practice it won't be.
Flying anything over 5.7t in Europe, most employers are going to want you to have the ATPL theory done as well as the CPL, Multi Engine Piston rating (twin rating as such), Multi engine instrument rating and also an MCC course. This would give you what is often termed a 'Frozen' ATPL because you have everything needed for the ATPL apart from the experience.
With a fATPL, you may be able to apply to the type of operator you wish to join, although it is worth bearing in mind that a lot will either want you to already be type rated on the aircraft they operate, or be willing to self fund your training on the type. Depending on the type this can be a substantial amount from €17000 for an ATR to over €40000 (I believe) for a Jetstream 31 (thanks to a monopoly).
There are some operators that will either sponsor your type rating or bond you but these ones seem to be getting less and less common.
In theory it would be enough to apply, but in practice it won't be.
Flying anything over 5.7t in Europe, most employers are going to want you to have the ATPL theory done as well as the CPL, Multi Engine Piston rating (twin rating as such), Multi engine instrument rating and also an MCC course. This would give you what is often termed a 'Frozen' ATPL because you have everything needed for the ATPL apart from the experience.
With a fATPL, you may be able to apply to the type of operator you wish to join, although it is worth bearing in mind that a lot will either want you to already be type rated on the aircraft they operate, or be willing to self fund your training on the type. Depending on the type this can be a substantial amount from €17000 for an ATR to over €40000 (I believe) for a Jetstream 31 (thanks to a monopoly).
There are some operators that will either sponsor your type rating or bond you but these ones seem to be getting less and less common.
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Depends on what you mean by "fly in the States" - do you mean train in the US or go and work in the US (or both)?
If you want to work in Europe you will need an EASA licence, if you want to work in the US you will need an FAA licence (plus the right to live and work in the US). In Europe there is a culture of recruiting low-hours cadets direct from training, though competition is fierce. In the US the culture is geared more towards newly qualified pilots building hours as instructors etc before getting their first multi-crew job.
Your best bet would be to look at the experience requirements and qualifications for the types of jobs you are aspiring to and then work out how you might go about meeting them. And if you can't find the type of job you want advertised then that will tell you another story .....
If you want to work in Europe you will need an EASA licence, if you want to work in the US you will need an FAA licence (plus the right to live and work in the US). In Europe there is a culture of recruiting low-hours cadets direct from training, though competition is fierce. In the US the culture is geared more towards newly qualified pilots building hours as instructors etc before getting their first multi-crew job.
Your best bet would be to look at the experience requirements and qualifications for the types of jobs you are aspiring to and then work out how you might go about meeting them. And if you can't find the type of job you want advertised then that will tell you another story .....
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At present I only plan to train in the US due to the weather and good availability.
If I pursue a career it may be in Europe or the US depending on employment availability.
If I pursue a career it may be in Europe or the US depending on employment availability.
