British Airways Flying Club
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BAFC has many advantages , there are at least 3 retired BA captains instructing there . BA has in the past used BAFC to train BA F/O's up to FI ( R ) and many then instruct part time whilst flying full time for BA .
The competition over the road tend to be wannabee airline pilots ( in the main ) as opposed to those who are there because they like flying and instrcting . The majority if not all of these F/O's are now Training Captains on A320's 777 757 767 or 747400 .
The downside is that the office staff ( not Rachel ) are very clicky you are either in or out and you will know which you are very quickly . As a customer you can fly with whoever you want to so if like me you would not want to fly with the CFI then don't you are paying remember !
a&c although possibly a little biased is correct in the main if you are taught properly in the first place then even if the flying initially costs you more money ( and I don't know if BAFC are more expensive ) you will save in the end . As an example if you are not taught straight and level properly on ex 6 then you will find difficulty on a navex by which time the cause of your difficulty will be masked by all sorts of other errors .
My advice is trawl the deals around find an instructor or two that you like who are there for the fun not a set of epaulettes and do your homework before you get airborne .
The competition over the road tend to be wannabee airline pilots ( in the main ) as opposed to those who are there because they like flying and instrcting . The majority if not all of these F/O's are now Training Captains on A320's 777 757 767 or 747400 .
The downside is that the office staff ( not Rachel ) are very clicky you are either in or out and you will know which you are very quickly . As a customer you can fly with whoever you want to so if like me you would not want to fly with the CFI then don't you are paying remember !
a&c although possibly a little biased is correct in the main if you are taught properly in the first place then even if the flying initially costs you more money ( and I don't know if BAFC are more expensive ) you will save in the end . As an example if you are not taught straight and level properly on ex 6 then you will find difficulty on a navex by which time the cause of your difficulty will be masked by all sorts of other errors .
My advice is trawl the deals around find an instructor or two that you like who are there for the fun not a set of epaulettes and do your homework before you get airborne .
Join Date: Sep 2001
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Lessee, 6470 pounds sterling is about 18,000 aus dollars. Jeesus, flying is cheap here! Figure about 7-8500 for a ppl here. 40 - 50 hrs 152 and 172, or Warrior if you prefer. Yes I know all about JAR vs AUS vs FAA. But really, buy an airline ticket (cheap at the moment) and have a holiday as well. You'll still have enough left over to convert, and have another holiday and do more training too.
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29351 you make a good point all the flying training i have had in aus has been to a very high standard but i trauled the training establishments and did not pick the cheapest.
The high cost of flying in europe is due to the flying that we dont do ! ,due to the WX it is not uncommon not to be able to fly for two weeks at a time during the winter when this happens as soon as the WX is even half good enough to teach then the pressure is on at some clubs to start flying you will not find this attitude at the more reputable clubs.
A few lessons in the wrong conditions when you dont learn much will soon knock a hole in your budget ,ever wonderd why it takes the average student in the UK 60-70 hours to get the PPL issued ?.
If you have 4 weeks then a trip down under to learn to fly is a much better bet than the USA , unfortunatly not a lot of people can get the time to do it.
[ 25 November 2001: Message edited by: A and C ]
The high cost of flying in europe is due to the flying that we dont do ! ,due to the WX it is not uncommon not to be able to fly for two weeks at a time during the winter when this happens as soon as the WX is even half good enough to teach then the pressure is on at some clubs to start flying you will not find this attitude at the more reputable clubs.
A few lessons in the wrong conditions when you dont learn much will soon knock a hole in your budget ,ever wonderd why it takes the average student in the UK 60-70 hours to get the PPL issued ?.
If you have 4 weeks then a trip down under to learn to fly is a much better bet than the USA , unfortunatly not a lot of people can get the time to do it.
[ 25 November 2001: Message edited by: A and C ]