US training problem for foreigners?
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US training problem for foreigners?
I haven't seen any postings about this before but I think it might be important info for subscribers of this group...
According to Immigration service revises student visa requirements on the National Air Transportation web site foreign visitors wanting to take up flying training in the US now require an M-1 or F-1 visa as from April 12
Does anyone have any extra info about this ? What's an M-1 or F-1 visa and how long will it take to get one ?
Incidentally, does anyone know what the rules are pertaining to training on larger aircraft - I had heard there was a blanket ban on foreign students training on anything bigger than 12,500 lbs(which is causing a problem for people wanting to do type ratings)
According to Immigration service revises student visa requirements on the National Air Transportation web site foreign visitors wanting to take up flying training in the US now require an M-1 or F-1 visa as from April 12
Does anyone have any extra info about this ? What's an M-1 or F-1 visa and how long will it take to get one ?
Incidentally, does anyone know what the rules are pertaining to training on larger aircraft - I had heard there was a blanket ban on foreign students training on anything bigger than 12,500 lbs(which is causing a problem for people wanting to do type ratings)
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150Driver,
In October of 2001 I posted a thread called M-1 Visa Explained because there was a lot of confusion over what an M-1 Visa was.
As for type ratings look at the thread US training restrictions due to 9/11
Happy Flying,
Capt. Richard J. Gentil, Pres.
Naples Air Center, Inc.
In October of 2001 I posted a thread called M-1 Visa Explained because there was a lot of confusion over what an M-1 Visa was.
As for type ratings look at the thread US training restrictions due to 9/11
Happy Flying,
Capt. Richard J. Gentil, Pres.
Naples Air Center, Inc.
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150 Driver,
I think Richard has pretty much summed this one up with what is involved etc, but I just thought I would let you know, I have just received my M1 for training in the United States, and after receiveing the necessary forms (I20, DS156, DS157) and sending them to the US Embassy in London, I had my visa back in 5 days
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Cheers.
I think Richard has pretty much summed this one up with what is involved etc, but I just thought I would let you know, I have just received my M1 for training in the United States, and after receiveing the necessary forms (I20, DS156, DS157) and sending them to the US Embassy in London, I had my visa back in 5 days
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Hey there,
You say you got your M1 training visa in FIVE days???
wow, I filled out all the required forms and sent them all off about 5 weeks ago now.
I got my passport back about 3 weeks ago, but still no visa.....
Anyone else who's obtained a visa recently, how long did you have to wait before it was issued?
Lets face it, by the time they get all the paper work done you could have been into their country, had a sleep on the beach and then come home...
Thanks in advance,
Ian
You say you got your M1 training visa in FIVE days???
wow, I filled out all the required forms and sent them all off about 5 weeks ago now.
I got my passport back about 3 weeks ago, but still no visa.....
Anyone else who's obtained a visa recently, how long did you have to wait before it was issued?
Lets face it, by the time they get all the paper work done you could have been into their country, had a sleep on the beach and then come home...
Thanks in advance,
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though doesnt pertain this issue.......i will still write it......
the 911 incident seem to have deemed(!!! its all over now) the chances of muslims wishing to embark into the world of commercial flying.......like myself......
now, my dream to get my commercial pilot licence is all gone......
happy flying, guys
richie-rich
the 911 incident seem to have deemed(!!! its all over now) the chances of muslims wishing to embark into the world of commercial flying.......like myself......
now, my dream to get my commercial pilot licence is all gone......
happy flying, guys
richie-rich
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Strange
Ian,
That sounds very strange to me, 5 weeks seems a little excessive? Plus, if you have your passport back then your visa should be in it?
I was intially quoted by the Embassy after ringing them up (£1.50 per min
) prior to sending my documents a period of 5 to 7 working days, and surely enough it was back in 5.
That sounds very strange to me, 5 weeks seems a little excessive? Plus, if you have your passport back then your visa should be in it?
I was intially quoted by the Embassy after ringing them up (£1.50 per min
) prior to sending my documents a period of 5 to 7 working days, and surely enough it was back in 5.
Richie-rich,
I just left the Boeing training facility in Seattle where I met over a dozen Saudi pilots undergoing flight training. I understand that they also have guys in Vero Beach and Long Beach, so don’t give up your dream just yet
Cat3C Autoland,
The guys mentioned above had a minimum weight of 72 days for their visas, so be grateful that you got yours in 5 days!
Mutt
I just left the Boeing training facility in Seattle where I met over a dozen Saudi pilots undergoing flight training. I understand that they also have guys in Vero Beach and Long Beach, so don’t give up your dream just yet
Cat3C Autoland,
The guys mentioned above had a minimum weight of 72 days for their visas, so be grateful that you got yours in 5 days!
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mutt.....thanks a lot mate......
naa.......i wouldnt let the chances of flying go just like that because of the 911 incident........i am going to south africa next month for undertaking my private pilot license and night rating......and then in december for instrument rating and commercial pilot license......wish me luck.........!!!
flying is too precious for me and i aint gonna spoil this chance just because u.s of a has gone stringent with their visa policies after the tragic incident........still would see u guys up there one day.......
thanks for the encouraging words, once again......take care all
richie-rich
naa.......i wouldnt let the chances of flying go just like that because of the 911 incident........i am going to south africa next month for undertaking my private pilot license and night rating......and then in december for instrument rating and commercial pilot license......wish me luck.........!!!
flying is too precious for me and i aint gonna spoil this chance just because u.s of a has gone stringent with their visa policies after the tragic incident........still would see u guys up there one day.......
thanks for the encouraging words, once again......take care all
richie-rich
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Superpilot:
Answering back with cheek and attitude? I can't imagine that will go down well with your 'twice as powerful as god and christ he knows it' US Immigration official.
Fight fire with fire? Sounds a bit fundamentalist if you ask me!
Seriously though, sounds like a recipe for trouble. Best keep your head down and let you behaviour and actions speak for themselves.
Answering back with cheek and attitude? I can't imagine that will go down well with your 'twice as powerful as god and christ he knows it' US Immigration official.
Fight fire with fire? Sounds a bit fundamentalist if you ask me!
Seriously though, sounds like a recipe for trouble. Best keep your head down and let you behaviour and actions speak for themselves.
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Well put Superpilot
Now here`s another question regarding the same subject:
Are there any restrictions/prolonged periods of waiting for foreign pilots (already holding FAA certificates - commercial or ATP) who are going to do their simulator training/type rating course in the US?
Does the FBI have to be notified by the applicant or does the training center do this for you?And approximately how long do you have to wait to be cleared?
Now here`s another question regarding the same subject:
Are there any restrictions/prolonged periods of waiting for foreign pilots (already holding FAA certificates - commercial or ATP) who are going to do their simulator training/type rating course in the US?
Does the FBI have to be notified by the applicant or does the training center do this for you?And approximately how long do you have to wait to be cleared?
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dear Superpilot
i am sure u r a super human being other than being just a super duper pilot.......thanks for such kind words.....
first of all, lemme get this thing straight.....i am not from the middle-east.....i come from bangladesh, home to the second largest population of musilms in the world. i was refused visa last year (that was before the 911) even though i had my i-20 from university of north dakota, from their john. d odegard school of aerospace sciences majoring in bs aeronautics- air transport. the visa officer claimed that i would find work in united, american, delta(
) and wouldnt return to my country. so, such ****ty, a$$h0listic attitude is familiar with me.
i came to germany in august, and found myself sitting with police after 911. i was writing to some flight schools based in germany about information and one of them got excited and informed the cops. was offended and couldnt resist such action. and guess my age.....i am only 19.......
i just hope not that south african embassy would do the same thing with me, i.e, refuse my visa.
we all know what america feels. i myself am in an american university based in germany. i sympathize with my best friends, who are from places like michigan, new jersey, illinois and all. however, such sympathy slowly fades when i am being treated like a dirt by all these stupid bearuecrats in different embassies.
anyways, i will see u guys up there oneday.....
superduper pilot......keep up the good work.
richie-rich
i am sure u r a super human being other than being just a super duper pilot.......thanks for such kind words.....
first of all, lemme get this thing straight.....i am not from the middle-east.....i come from bangladesh, home to the second largest population of musilms in the world. i was refused visa last year (that was before the 911) even though i had my i-20 from university of north dakota, from their john. d odegard school of aerospace sciences majoring in bs aeronautics- air transport. the visa officer claimed that i would find work in united, american, delta(
) and wouldnt return to my country. so, such ****ty, a$$h0listic attitude is familiar with me. i came to germany in august, and found myself sitting with police after 911. i was writing to some flight schools based in germany about information and one of them got excited and informed the cops. was offended and couldnt resist such action. and guess my age.....i am only 19.......
i just hope not that south african embassy would do the same thing with me, i.e, refuse my visa.
we all know what america feels. i myself am in an american university based in germany. i sympathize with my best friends, who are from places like michigan, new jersey, illinois and all. however, such sympathy slowly fades when i am being treated like a dirt by all these stupid bearuecrats in different embassies.
anyways, i will see u guys up there oneday.....
superduper pilot......keep up the good work.
richie-rich
Top tip: reacting to US immigration officials with cheek and attitude will get you precisely nowhere. They hold all the cards. Have you ever heard the piece of advice that warns against being rude to waiters on the basis that they could do something unspeakable to your food? Same thing applies to people who can determine, almost on a whim, whether to let you into the country or not. Be open, truthful, sincere perhaps but if faced somebody who was acting with "cheek and attitude" I would find anyway I could to spoil his day.
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