FAR 141 120 Hour

[joseph500s]

Hello.

I have a question and cant seem to find a answer to it.

I hold a Australian PPL all done under the 150 hours CPL syllabus in Australia. I am moving to the U.S.A. next year and going to do the CPL and possibly SE-IR there too. Can I still do a 120 hour CPL under 141?

The thing that is confusing me is I read that I can't do it under the 120 hour syllabus because I already have a PPL not done under 141, but was done under the CASA 150 hour program so would that kind of count as still being considered as 141? for the purpose of finishing with a 120 hour CPL?

I have all my training records and stuff to prove I was up to standard in flight training and following a set syllabus.

So would I have to do Part 61- 250 hours total or could get away with Part 141 - 120 hours total?

Thank you to whoever answers

[joseph500s]

Sorry to be more clear, I already have 62 hours from my PPL. can I take that out of the 120 hours? for the CPL.

It's all quite confusing

[zondaracer]

If your training was completed in another country, it is not considered Part 141. The school needs to have a part 141 certificate for it to count. You won't get any credit for a part 141 course.

So, for example, if someone does a part 141 course and can finish their PPL in 35 hours, their IR in 35 hours, and their commercial in 120, then they will finish with a total of 190 hours. These are part 141 minimums unless you the course is otherwise approved by the FAA.

If a different person does their Private Certificate in 50 hours, does 50 hours of hour building, does their IR in 20 hours, and then decides to start doing their Commercial under part 141 and finishes the course in 120 hours, they will finish with a total of 240 hours.

I recommend you have a look at Part 141, which states that you need 190 hours total time to get your commercial certificate.

[B2N2]

Joseph, your question is just up my alley so here it goes;

Under FAA there are two sets of flight school certification, Part 61 and Part 141.
Read about it here:
Part 61 vs. Part 141 | Flying Magazine

Under a Part 141 syllabus you are required to have at least 190 hrs for the CPL.
This is broken down in the following minimums

35 hrs. Private Pilot
35 hrs. Instrument rating
120 hrs. for Commercial training of which 50 hrs is PIC cross country.
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190 hrs. Total

You state you hold 62 hrs.
So what you can do is you Instrument rating under Part 141.
This will leave you with 62-35= 97 hrs. minimum
A part 141 Commercial training course will add 120 hrs. for a total of 97+120= 217 hrs.

Under Part 61 you are required a total of 250 hrs. for your Commercial so that would be 33 hrs more.

NOW REALITY

It is unlikely you can finish your IR in the minimum time.
Not because you are daft but because it is a minimum requirement set many many years ago and things have gotten a little more complex since then.
You also cannot count all flight time as Instrument time because you do not taxi, take-off and land with a view limiting device.
So more realistically your IFR will be 45-50 hrs.
This now only leaves a 15 hr difference.
Under part 61 you have more freedom as in how you fly the hours and where you go. Under Part 141 if the syllabus says local flight you cannot go cross country instead because the weather is so nice.
So in the grand scheme of things its really 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.

*Ask away !*