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Old 4th June 2001 | 17:32
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Talking easyJet

What's peoples current view of ej?
 
Old 5th June 2001 | 01:15
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I fly for EZY,and the flying is great - new equipment,good (although very limited)routes etc..
Perfect airline for a first job,but worth bearing in mind a few points.
We are hated (as Pilots) by everyone from management to cabin staff,are treated with absolutely no respect whatsoever,and constantly lied to.There is also a policy of suspending Pilots wherever possible,even on the flimsiest of evidence.Money used to be good,but is now better at Ryanair and GO.
But as I said,the flying is great.....
 
Old 5th June 2001 | 01:28
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Bo Orangewing!

Question 4 U:

Why good 1st job if industrial relations R *****?

Not slagging EasyJet, just a confused and nieve wannabe.

Also, EasyJet 1stjobbers, how many hours typically?

Yours etc, Blackshirt.

Pissed on a Monday night!
 
Old 5th June 2001 | 04:16
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Well a few of my friends either work or have worked for easyJet and all seem to be very happy with the company.
I myself have had a limited contact with them as I have applyed to them a few times but with not so much as a snifter from them, to me as a first job or even a long term job I think they would be great to work for, and even when you hear people slag them off they should remember that they are lucky to have a job! There are some of us out here who would give them there right arm to fly there aircraft, and by all accounts there are a very professional company!
Don't knock them too hard I'm sure you would not like to be in my situation!
Cheers
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Old 5th June 2001 | 12:15
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My only experience of them is what is shown on 'Airline'... but I must confess to being rather alarmed at one programme where the crews were being asked to perform turnarounds
in twenty minutes ! I don't know what the guys who fly for EZ feel about this, but as a pax, I would feel happier boarding an aircraft that had been prepped by a crew who weren't under such time pressure.
 
Old 5th June 2001 | 12:17
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Blackshirt,

I am one of those 1st-timers as you may call us and can tell you with regard to hours that you can do as many as any other F/O.

In the last 10 months I've easily gotten about 600 hours, making that about 720 on average a year.

It appears that some other F/O's do a lot more, 80-90 a month, and others are on standby's most of the time, but even if this were to be true, lots of hours to play around in a 737.
 
Old 5th June 2001 | 12:30
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anengineer, just to clarify a point about our 20 minute turnarounds. From a pilot perspective , it is not a problem and I normally have the flight deck ready to go again before the pax have disembarked. If there was a problem, ie waiting for a flight plan or weather pack etc, the flight gets delayed.So if you ever board one of our flights , you can rest assured you are in the professional care of pilots and engineers who have not been under pressure nor cut corners on safety. We have just trimmed some fat, thats all!!
 
Old 5th June 2001 | 12:48
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Oh and my view of easyJet, I'm trying to leave.
Aware that all wannabes are trying to get a job to get hours etc. Once you have those hours though, lifestyle becomes more important. You'll know what I mean in about 4 years probably!!!
 
Old 5th June 2001 | 14:34
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Good point well made! I despatch easyJet at LGW and 20mins is not a problem and from our side of things the is no cutting corners, if that were the case I would not despatch the a/c...
SJ's
 
Old 5th June 2001 | 23:51
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Blackshirt,in answer to your question EZY is excellent in terms of actual flying,despite poor relationships internally.For a first job you don't really care about roster disruption,being told porkies by management, and generally being treated like a 3rd class citizen;why? Because the money is o.k (maybe I was a little harsh in my earlier posting)and you get to charge round Europe in the youngest 737 (300+700NG)fleet in the world. Could do a lot worse,especially if you are one of the 220hrs total time guys.
Speedjeans,you obviously have the "Orange" in you,so keep plugging away at it and best of luck!!!
 
Old 6th June 2001 | 01:23
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Eh? - you can get a job with EJ on 220 hrs TT ?????? ...or am I being exceptionally dense today ?
 
Old 6th June 2001 | 16:33
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No,not being dense eng.Guys joining up with 220hrsTT although they are by far the minority.New F/O's usually have a bit of turboprop time,but by no means all.
 
Old 7th June 2001 | 19:58
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ORANGE WING AND EEZY PILOT

ANY CHANGE GUY GUYS COULD DROP ME A LINE ???

THANKS

[email protected]
 
Old 9th June 2001 | 04:06
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OK, I've obviously been seriously confused for most of my wannabee life... I had always been under the impression that in order to get a job even flying cargo in a turboprop, no-one would touch you unless you had a full ATPL with an absolute minimum of 1,500 hrs.

I know this is slightly O/T, but seeing as no-one replied to my thread on this subject in the Wannabees forum, could someone enlighten me on this please ????

PLEASE !!! ...this may mean that a flying job is not so unattainable for me after all !
 
Old 10th June 2001 | 00:48
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anengineer-

Many companies (including the one I work for) want to see EITHER a full-time course and 200+ hours, OR a modular course and 1000+ hours. A frozen ATPL is usually acceptable.

We have taken on a lot of both types, direct to jet positions. The lowest I know of was 190 hours.

So, yes, there is hope!!
 
Old 10th June 2001 | 14:04
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So, instead of the £50k+ I was thinking it would take, it may be as little as £35k ???
(for example, to do a zero to frozen ATPL at, say, Ormond Beach).

I don't want to hijack this Easyjet thread any longer as this is now way O/T - I will start another in Wannabee's.

Thanks for your advice guys.
 
Old 12th June 2001 | 03:26
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This is prob a daft question...so here goes !

The E.J on line application form - how do you update it with extra hours + qualifications etc ???

Thanks
 
Old 12th June 2001 | 21:18
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Not a stupid question, you have to do the whole thing again or send them an email.
 

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