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I would add though that the iCP has the caveat of having a chance to be placed with the Wings cadets if you prove yourself during training and pass an interview.
Correct me if I'm wrong by my understanding was that you have a clear disadvantage if you have to go down the icp route rather than wings route.
If you complete the iCP to CTC's satisfactory standards then you are eligible to apply for the ATP course, where by on acceptance you are in the EXACT same boat as the cadet's, with the exact same chance of employment through their partner airlines.
Finally one important advantage of the wings scheme is that it seems to cover any additional remedial training required after completion of the pseudo PPL examination (except for exam and skills test resits and any additional accommodation costs incurred). On the ICP course, all of these costs must be covered by the trainee which could easily amount to thousands of pounds if the student has difficulty in just one area of training.
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I'm quite intrigued to know how you got into flying, because I can't see how you can be stood tall slaughtering guys who are willing to invest in CTC's training to eventually land a job.
Furthermore, who's to say I don't want to go into a Flight Instructor role rather than the Airline business..? If that's the case then the Cadet course would be of little use.
Just because your where you want to be, it doesn't call for the attitude.
I'm pretty sure somewhere along the line you've had you parents cheque book help you out.
Furthermore, who's to say I don't want to go into a Flight Instructor role rather than the Airline business..? If that's the case then the Cadet course would be of little use.
Just because your where you want to be, it doesn't call for the attitude.
I'm pretty sure somewhere along the line you've had you parents cheque book help you out.
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Your post is pretty spot on giggidy. Upon passing the ATP course though iCP cadets are placed in the same pool as Wings cadets.
To me the drawbacks of the iCP are that you don't get the 40,000 bond protection so the risk is solely on you rather than shared between the candidate and CTC as it is on the Wings course.
Secondly, with the iCP you don't automatically have a place on the AQC and ATP courses, you have to pass an interview to get on. I have been told the 'majority' of iCP candidates get onto these courses. But you are still essentially gambling your money on your ability to impress and pass this interview.
Thirdly, I would imagine that if CTC starts to have problems placing candidates the iCP cadets will be the first to suffer. They will simply not be accepted onto the AQC course at the end of their studies so as to keep the hold pool as small as possible.
To me the drawbacks of the iCP are that you don't get the 40,000 bond protection so the risk is solely on you rather than shared between the candidate and CTC as it is on the Wings course.
Secondly, with the iCP you don't automatically have a place on the AQC and ATP courses, you have to pass an interview to get on. I have been told the 'majority' of iCP candidates get onto these courses. But you are still essentially gambling your money on your ability to impress and pass this interview.
Thirdly, I would imagine that if CTC starts to have problems placing candidates the iCP cadets will be the first to suffer. They will simply not be accepted onto the AQC course at the end of their studies so as to keep the hold pool as small as possible.
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You presumably posted to ask for advice so lets take the emotion out of it and sticks to the facts
1) The highest probability of getting a job is for those who are in the "wings" course as they are the first in line for an interview.
2) You failed to meet the entry requirements of the wings course
You now have a choice:
A) Make an assessment of why you were not successful in the interview and work on improving your competencies over the next year or so and then reapply.
B) Immediately enroll in the ICP course with gamble that you will in the future be able to transfer to the wings course, understanding that failure to do so and only having ICP completion on your record, will greatly diminish your chance of post course employment as by definition you will have twice failed the Wings interview (the initial one and the mid course one)
To me the choice A is the most logical but like every other bit of advice on an anonymous bulletin board it is worth exactly what you paid for it.
Good luck on whatever you choose.
You presumably posted to ask for advice so lets take the emotion out of it and sticks to the facts
1) The highest probability of getting a job is for those who are in the "wings" course as they are the first in line for an interview.
2) You failed to meet the entry requirements of the wings course
You now have a choice:
A) Make an assessment of why you were not successful in the interview and work on improving your competencies over the next year or so and then reapply.
B) Immediately enroll in the ICP course with gamble that you will in the future be able to transfer to the wings course, understanding that failure to do so and only having ICP completion on your record, will greatly diminish your chance of post course employment as by definition you will have twice failed the Wings interview (the initial one and the mid course one)
To me the choice A is the most logical but like every other bit of advice on an anonymous bulletin board it is worth exactly what you paid for it.
Good luck on whatever you choose.
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