Pilot Personalities?
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Charlie, did your friends join easyJet recently or a few years ago? If they joined recently, ask them if they are on a full time easyJet contract. If they are, great. However, most folks from Oxford are currently contractors (hint, big difference in pay!!) and if they want a full time easyJet contract, they are being sent to European bases.
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As redsnail points out, full time eJ contracts are good. Be careful of the rubbish contracts (the one you'd go on) though. Got a couple of friends on those, one says life is okay and he thinks of it as a stepping stone, and the other absolutely despises everything about it and wishes he stayed unemployed and worked in ops somewhere in the hope that he could work his way to a decent RHS job.
He told me he lives above a garage in a depressing flat and just breaking even with living costs whilst living hours away from his family. Although on the later point, I think that was him going into flight training without fully knowing what the reality was.
It's not all as rosy as OAA and their marketing department lead you to believe.
Won't turn this into a debate, plenty of those threads about.
He told me he lives above a garage in a depressing flat and just breaking even with living costs whilst living hours away from his family. Although on the later point, I think that was him going into flight training without fully knowing what the reality was.
It's not all as rosy as OAA and their marketing department lead you to believe.
Won't turn this into a debate, plenty of those threads about.
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Long sleevs because
Mr. Sun is not your friend; skin cancer. I would prefer short sleeves; easier to keep clean and iron and less mass to pack. However, I choose to wear long sleeves to minimize my exposure to sunshine for long periods at high altitudes.
Research skin cancer and pilots; unfortunately we seem to be at a higher risk.
Personalities; a complete mixed bag, the larger the company the more variation (in the civilian world).
Research skin cancer and pilots; unfortunately we seem to be at a higher risk.
Personalities; a complete mixed bag, the larger the company the more variation (in the civilian world).
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Yep, I do. Especially in Summer. Also block out on my face every day. (Having lived in Oz for 35 years taught me that). 
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Every little bit helps.
Suncream on your arms?
As a young person starting out in this industry I was unaware of the associated risks of skin cancer. Spending significant time above FL180, having a history of sunburn and being Caucasian (Other {darker skinned} races are not immune to skin cancer) all seem to be increased risk factors for developing skin cancer.
Sun blocking creams help, eliminating exposure is better (I’m not a doctor).
Safe flying and good health everybody!
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Do any of you get a sun tan up there? It's not all doom and gloom, long sleeve shirts are more trendy anyway.
Regarding Chief Willy's point, I believe that if you are very young (early 20s or younger) there is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't go modular. Jobs may take longer but at the same time you're very young and within a few years a good job might just come for you. Working somewhere in an airline will be good.
I've seen it happen myself. Friend finished training modular, got into ops and within 3 months the airline, Jet2, offered him a interview to be a pilot. He never once applied for the pilot job but someone knew he was qualified and offered it.
Regarding Chief Willy's point, I believe that if you are very young (early 20s or younger) there is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't go modular. Jobs may take longer but at the same time you're very young and within a few years a good job might just come for you. Working somewhere in an airline will be good.
I've seen it happen myself. Friend finished training modular, got into ops and within 3 months the airline, Jet2, offered him a interview to be a pilot. He never once applied for the pilot job but someone knew he was qualified and offered it.
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Honestly there has been no mad rush for me to sign up chief willy, its just one of the many ways that are a possiblity. I will be attempting to get onto BA FPP but my chances are probably pretty low. Aside from that i will see if i can get onto an Easyjet or Monarch scheme. The reason why i am geared towards is because i wish to study my ATPL as i was going to Uni; a continuation through education. I don't want to hang around or wait. This won't be for another 3 years at least though. Sure i may not have a job initially which is why i will have to make do and find a job, but in the beginning its never going to be all fun, money and glamour.
I'm am a ginger. Which is why i will be adopting LONG SLEEVES
fair skin!
I'm am a ginger. Which is why i will be adopting LONG SLEEVES
fair skin!
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Flying brings out the best and the worst in a personality. A well formed, non egotistical, non arrogant type could be a great pilot as long as they keep a level head and don't let the perceived "prestige" (lol!!) of the job go to their head.
However, in the younger formative years, its easy to let the job form "you" as a person.
I've flown with some great guys, but I think its only fair to say that I have also flown with some total megalomaniac idiots where the flight deck gradient is ridiculously steep to the point of being un-workable. Some of these have been the more "senior" guys who have been in the industry for years (or dare I say have come from ex-RAF!!) who see no reason to adapt to modern CRM methods....
However, in the younger formative years, its easy to let the job form "you" as a person.
I've flown with some great guys, but I think its only fair to say that I have also flown with some total megalomaniac idiots where the flight deck gradient is ridiculously steep to the point of being un-workable. Some of these have been the more "senior" guys who have been in the industry for years (or dare I say have come from ex-RAF!!) who see no reason to adapt to modern CRM methods....
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help out a yank will you? you guys are speaking the queen's english...we don't understand that without a translator (there's an app for that!)?
anyway...what is a FROZEN ATP?
what is MODULAR?
mind you, I've been a pilot since 1975 with CFIIMETIATPMEL737 type et al
but we don't use the same terms.
and one more thought on the short sleeve vs long sleeve debate...I've been cold in the cockpit a whole lot LESS than I've been HOT in the cockpit...it can get awfully hot up there even with AC on max!
In the summer time, we are allowed to walk around without our jackets on and the short sleve shirt is more comfortable in the summer.
anyway...what is a FROZEN ATP?
what is MODULAR?
mind you, I've been a pilot since 1975 with CFIIMETIATPMEL737 type et al
but we don't use the same terms.
and one more thought on the short sleeve vs long sleeve debate...I've been cold in the cockpit a whole lot LESS than I've been HOT in the cockpit...it can get awfully hot up there even with AC on max!
In the summer time, we are allowed to walk around without our jackets on and the short sleve shirt is more comfortable in the summer.
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Ahah i am enjoying the debate on the sleeves! I always got the impression that short sleeve shirts were the option so that nothing got in the way!
Yank Translations;
Frozen ATPL - Frozen Airline Transport Pilot Lisence means a lisence holding (1) Commercial Pilot's License with a Multi-Engine aircraft class rating, (2) a Multi-Engine Instrument rating, and (3) a certificate of Multi-Crew Cooperation (MCC). After 1500 flight hours have been completed, an ATPL candidate can take the FAA's ATPL written skills test.
Modular - Is a specific type of training in which you do your PPL, Instrument ratings, multi-crew all separately and so you can do it when you wish where integrated is more like taking a Uni Degree (or at least a similar process)
I am fairly planted on my aspirations and so they won't swing by much, but i will most definitely ensure that it doesn't dictate who i am or how i behave when i grow up
Joke: How do can you tell that theres a pilot at a party?
Answer: He'll tell you
Yank Translations;
Frozen ATPL - Frozen Airline Transport Pilot Lisence means a lisence holding (1) Commercial Pilot's License with a Multi-Engine aircraft class rating, (2) a Multi-Engine Instrument rating, and (3) a certificate of Multi-Crew Cooperation (MCC). After 1500 flight hours have been completed, an ATPL candidate can take the FAA's ATPL written skills test.
Modular - Is a specific type of training in which you do your PPL, Instrument ratings, multi-crew all separately and so you can do it when you wish where integrated is more like taking a Uni Degree (or at least a similar process)
I am fairly planted on my aspirations and so they won't swing by much, but i will most definitely ensure that it doesn't dictate who i am or how i behave when i grow up
Joke: How do can you tell that theres a pilot at a party?
Answer: He'll tell you
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You groan when a FO wears long sleeve? Haha I hope that's a joke.
Joke: How do can you tell that someones training to be a pilot?
Answer: His parents will tell you.
Joke: How do can you tell that theres a pilot at a party?
Answer: He'll tell you
Answer: He'll tell you
Answer: His parents will tell you.
