British Midland - First Round Tests and UAS
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Irelsby, tut, tut, tut!
This brings back memories of last year. I put a little gripe on these pages mentioning that I thought that it was a bit of a pain that in the final BM interview, just a week before my finals, I had to prepare three 10min presentations and be asked to actually present only one of them. Not a major gripe, and definately not a slag off, but the interviewing chaps interogated one of the guys from the same university as me about who had posted it.
Oh, and I did not get selected.
Draw you own conclusions, personally I'd say think before you speak and start applying to other airlines!
This brings back memories of last year. I put a little gripe on these pages mentioning that I thought that it was a bit of a pain that in the final BM interview, just a week before my finals, I had to prepare three 10min presentations and be asked to actually present only one of them. Not a major gripe, and definately not a slag off, but the interviewing chaps interogated one of the guys from the same university as me about who had posted it.
Oh, and I did not get selected.
Draw you own conclusions, personally I'd say think before you speak and start applying to other airlines!
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I'm afraid I've got to leap (well, lurch slowly...) to the defence of the UAS.
It is a great scheme and produces many good pilots - it is a shame though that so few ever seem to get RAF sponsorship (I don't here BA or BM complaining though :> )
As with every organisation there are good guys and total twats, don't assume because you meet a total !!!! (and you are more likely to because he/she will be mouthing off about how crap the UAS is/was) that all other UAS people are twats.
It is a great scheme and produces many good pilots - it is a shame though that so few ever seem to get RAF sponsorship (I don't here BA or BM complaining though :> )
As with every organisation there are good guys and total twats, don't assume because you meet a total !!!! (and you are more likely to because he/she will be mouthing off about how crap the UAS is/was) that all other UAS people are twats.
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"Empty vessels make most noise"
I am amazed by the strength of venom being spouted on this and other forums about UASs. Most who oppose them obviously don't have the first idea about the quality and standard of flying that is available, and why that might be attractive to a sponsor.
They also look for an element of maturity too, which seems sadly lacking amongst some of the remarks. Whoever mentioned the aviation world is small, is quite right. Astonishingly small.
"Don't knock it unless you tried it"
I am amazed by the strength of venom being spouted on this and other forums about UASs. Most who oppose them obviously don't have the first idea about the quality and standard of flying that is available, and why that might be attractive to a sponsor.
They also look for an element of maturity too, which seems sadly lacking amongst some of the remarks. Whoever mentioned the aviation world is small, is quite right. Astonishingly small.
"Don't knock it unless you tried it"
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ZZZZZZ - another arguement between those who did join the UAs and those who didn't.
There is however one point i'd like to make though (are you sitting comfortably Raymond?). Maybe i am young, silly and naive as you so kindly pointed out Raymond, but i enjoyed 3 fantastic years as a member of Liverpool UAS. This no doubt provided an excellent stepping stone into the commercial world and i now occupy the RHS of an A320 for a large British carrier.
True the UAS might not be everyones cup of tea but why slag something off that you have obviously never been apart of and probably don't know much about? Anyway the bottom line is we are all interested in flying and the UAS provides this for free.
Best of luck to all those (UAS and non-UAS) in the search for employment/sponsorship - hang on in there.
There is however one point i'd like to make though (are you sitting comfortably Raymond?). Maybe i am young, silly and naive as you so kindly pointed out Raymond, but i enjoyed 3 fantastic years as a member of Liverpool UAS. This no doubt provided an excellent stepping stone into the commercial world and i now occupy the RHS of an A320 for a large British carrier.
True the UAS might not be everyones cup of tea but why slag something off that you have obviously never been apart of and probably don't know much about? Anyway the bottom line is we are all interested in flying and the UAS provides this for free.
Best of luck to all those (UAS and non-UAS) in the search for employment/sponsorship - hang on in there.
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I must agree with Judge Jules, if you think that having a minor gripe about an airline selection on Pprune will have no consequences whatsover then you are very silly indeed. People will track you down if they are determined enough.
I too went for BM last year and got interrogated about a post not written by myself, regarding the preparation for the 10 minute talks at the final board, and needless to say, none of us with that university email address got in. Not saying that was definately a factor in my rejection of course! But it didn't really help create too good an atmosphere in the interview!
As for my opinion on UAS's, my personal experiences included:
1) 110hrs Bulldog (LL Nav and Formation)
2) Great flights in loads of types of RAF Aircraft
3) Met loads of great mates for life
4) Got paid for it!
And 15 hours in the back of a Hawk!!
In my opinion thats not too bad was it. If I hadn't been in a UAS I'm sure my Uni life would not have been half as fun and rewarding, and I'm sure I wouldn't be here at OATS on a Sponsorship scheme if I hadn't UAS on my C.V.
I feel really sorry for the people who missed out, and their posts on this thread bring a smile to my face, they are full of bitterness and envy....
Guys get a reality check.....You couldn't see a good thing if it smacked you in the face!!!
See Ya
S.T.C.
I too went for BM last year and got interrogated about a post not written by myself, regarding the preparation for the 10 minute talks at the final board, and needless to say, none of us with that university email address got in. Not saying that was definately a factor in my rejection of course! But it didn't really help create too good an atmosphere in the interview!
As for my opinion on UAS's, my personal experiences included:
1) 110hrs Bulldog (LL Nav and Formation)
2) Great flights in loads of types of RAF Aircraft
3) Met loads of great mates for life
4) Got paid for it!
And 15 hours in the back of a Hawk!!
In my opinion thats not too bad was it. If I hadn't been in a UAS I'm sure my Uni life would not have been half as fun and rewarding, and I'm sure I wouldn't be here at OATS on a Sponsorship scheme if I hadn't UAS on my C.V.
I feel really sorry for the people who missed out, and their posts on this thread bring a smile to my face, they are full of bitterness and envy....
Guys get a reality check.....You couldn't see a good thing if it smacked you in the face!!!
See Ya
S.T.C.
