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Oxford or CTC for MCC/JOC??

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Old 16th Mar 2012, 18:56
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Oxford or CTC for MCC/JOC??

I would be grateful for some advice on where to undertake the MCC/JOC courses...? I am a modular student and had originally planned to go to Oxford on the 737-400 full motion sim. However, I've heard from fairly reliable sources that CTC holding pools are relatively empty at the moment, which has made me think perhaps it would be better to apply to the CTC Airline Qualification course (albeit somewhat more expensive) and try and get myself in the holding pool. Anyone able to confirm or deny these rumours??

Or should I save my money and go to somewhere reasonably priced like European at Bournemouth?? Does it really make a difference where you do this part of the training (e.g. Is it beneficial to have OAT or CTC on your Cv)??

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CTC as the pool is empty but regardless if it wasn’t you would have a place in it to await your turn for a jet job. The AQC is highly regarded and has been going since the 90's, placing thousands of people with the UK's leading airlines. I’m sure Oxford would deliver a top class product as well but that’s as far as it goes. I am biased but facts are facts. If were just comparing the courses themselves you wouldn’t go round completing them at either organisation.
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Old 17th Mar 2012, 15:50
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Oxford is good but very overpriced. They will not give you any help whatsoever in getting a job with an airline without having been on the integrated program. If you can get the AQC at CTC it's a much better option but if it's neither then go to one of the other full motion jet ones that have been mentioned already.
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Old 17th Mar 2012, 17:05
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Try CRM Aviation - look for some good posts about them on this forum. Competitively priced and apparently very good value for money. Some Senior, ex Oxford, staff working there come highly recommended I believe.
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My advice for anyone 250hr person, if you don't get the CTC AQC course just go to the cheapest place for MCC as its a tick in the box, and use your spare money to pay for a good jet orientation course. The MCC isnt a jet orientation course regardless what aircraft you do it on and flying a jet requires different techniques to propeller driven aircraft, it will put you ahead when you come to the sim stage for an interview and will be less of a shock when you start a TR.
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Thanks for helpful suggestions so far....

Does anybody else have any opinions...??
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Old 20th Mar 2012, 08:15
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CRM Aviation MCC - best course I ever did.

JOC - there is a wild choice out there ranging from £500 up to £2500. I guess it really depends on your budget or what you're trying to achieve.

Good luck...............
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I've heard good things about MultiFlight up in Leeds.
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The CTC AQC can get you in the pool, but I heard that as a modular student, you'll be second to the integrated lot.
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But is that not better than not being in hold pool at all?? Half a foot on the ladder, so to speak..?
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For me, if you can afford the CTC AQC go for it. You have nothing to lose (apart from a few grand) and a lot to gain. If worse comes to worse you just got an expensive MCC.
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Probably worth checking whether external mods are eligible for the ATP or whether it's just CTC TakeOff, iCP and cadets.
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