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I agree with Oleo. Salapilot you are very bitter and twisted. Are you one of those people that believe just because you have a licence and massive debt you should have a job?
As you know most airline recruit on who they know. Lets face it- it reduces the risks of failure.
However! Once Pilots are on the pool for assesment it doesn't matter who they know- the candidate has to prove them self. If they dont come up to standard- they are turned down. Same for all airlines..
14 months and no sniff of an interview? Well perhaps it's time to go and have a long look in the mirror. Perhaps you'll see the reason why.
Go have recieved a wealth of CVs from people with lots of experience- from turboprops to FO's from traditional airlines on 737s.
Life is Unfair. As some one else said- there are loads of in experienced pilots/people looking for their first leap- yes it is hard.
Keep going- some thing will turn up eventually.
As you know most airline recruit on who they know. Lets face it- it reduces the risks of failure.
However! Once Pilots are on the pool for assesment it doesn't matter who they know- the candidate has to prove them self. If they dont come up to standard- they are turned down. Same for all airlines..
14 months and no sniff of an interview? Well perhaps it's time to go and have a long look in the mirror. Perhaps you'll see the reason why.
Go have recieved a wealth of CVs from people with lots of experience- from turboprops to FO's from traditional airlines on 737s.
Life is Unfair. As some one else said- there are loads of in experienced pilots/people looking for their first leap- yes it is hard.
Keep going- some thing will turn up eventually.
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Hey now GoForFun!... Salapilot just had a vent in a moment of frustration, he has repented 
and all is consequently forgiven.
Chaps/chappesses, as many of you know there is often no rhyme or reason to whom gets "the call". There are a plethora of fine, qualified applicants and whomever is doing the selection will often, by human nature, take the path of least resistance so it will just be whomever then can get hold of on the day. It doesn't mean there is something wrong with you if you have been waiting a while. If you think that, then you are giving too much credence to what can often be a random process.
However it might pay to get some professional input into your CV just "to be sure to be sure" and as I said before keep current! You can make banana cake out of rotten bananas but a lapsed pilot quickly becomes unattractive, and this applies more with the less experience you have.
and all is consequently forgiven.Chaps/chappesses, as many of you know there is often no rhyme or reason to whom gets "the call". There are a plethora of fine, qualified applicants and whomever is doing the selection will often, by human nature, take the path of least resistance so it will just be whomever then can get hold of on the day. It doesn't mean there is something wrong with you if you have been waiting a while. If you think that, then you are giving too much credence to what can often be a random process.
However it might pay to get some professional input into your CV just "to be sure to be sure" and as I said before keep current! You can make banana cake out of rotten bananas but a lapsed pilot quickly becomes unattractive, and this applies more with the less experience you have.
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Okay,
so the recession is starting to put the brakes on expansion in the airline market.
-BUT_
Whatever happened to the huge pool of pilots that were meant to be just about to retire?
I remember lots of talk about BA losing loads of senior pilots through retirement and the great hoovering effect this would have through the aviation food chain.
Has this happened, is it still to happen, or was it just a sales pitch?
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so the recession is starting to put the brakes on expansion in the airline market.
-BUT_
Whatever happened to the huge pool of pilots that were meant to be just about to retire?
I remember lots of talk about BA losing loads of senior pilots through retirement and the great hoovering effect this would have through the aviation food chain.
Has this happened, is it still to happen, or was it just a sales pitch?
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Can't help thinking you're being a bit harsh on Sala - Oleo. Perhaps the only difference between you and him is you have a job and he is merely waiting to get his. There is no doubt some good advice in your posts but having a job doesn't automatically qualify you to judge those that don't - I think it's fair to assume that most airlines seek the attributes you mention. Spending a lot of money and seeing no return despite working hard to secure something don't make you bitter and twisted - just normal
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My first post may have given the impression that I am bitter and twisted......trust me I'm not and go for fun please read the whole thread before making those judgements...
Oleo was the first to make the comment to me and now realises that I'm not B and T. Just because I have a licence I don't think I have a God given right to a Job.. far from it. Again Goforfun if you read my postings you will see that all I'm asking for is fair crack of that Harsh Whip. Oleo ,Scroggs and www have all given good advice and I would like to think I will learn from it...hopefully that's what the wannabe section is about and not to "slag" each other off !!!
I started the thread as result of opening my letter from Go . I wanted to air my frustrations .....that's all. Yes it does hurt when you have spent time and hard work and nothing is happening. This is a safe environment for people to voice their concerns ,so dont punish them for that !
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Oleo was the first to make the comment to me and now realises that I'm not B and T. Just because I have a licence I don't think I have a God given right to a Job.. far from it. Again Goforfun if you read my postings you will see that all I'm asking for is fair crack of that Harsh Whip. Oleo ,Scroggs and www have all given good advice and I would like to think I will learn from it...hopefully that's what the wannabe section is about and not to "slag" each other off !!!
I started the thread as result of opening my letter from Go . I wanted to air my frustrations .....that's all. Yes it does hurt when you have spent time and hard work and nothing is happening. This is a safe environment for people to voice their concerns ,so dont punish them for that !
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I imagine that Go,having finally dropped their recruitment agency (Storm) need to gather an up dated data base of available pilot details, ahead of their potential hiring next year...however after the tragic events in the USA I would think that all bets are now off...we will be extremely lucky to avoid a world wide recession.
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salapilot,
your situation reminds me of how I was in 94 when there were NO jobs about. What I underestimated was just how many current airline pilots are looking to move about.
I couldn't believe my first job would not involve Airbus or Boeing !!.A bit of advice:try and get an angle on a niche job to get you going. A relative of mine worked for BAe and managed to get a list of corporate operators at FAB, I contacting them all and showed keen and ultimately got a job on the Citation. A year later with 500 turbine hours and people were much keener to interview me !
The old boys bit will always persist: once you are in an airline I am certain you would recommend mates without a job to give them a hand.A recommendation from an existing crewmember will always carry weight !!
Don't despair, I almost lost my marbles with the constant round of CV flinging and cold calling when I was without a job, get an angle. Good luck
your situation reminds me of how I was in 94 when there were NO jobs about. What I underestimated was just how many current airline pilots are looking to move about.
I couldn't believe my first job would not involve Airbus or Boeing !!.A bit of advice:try and get an angle on a niche job to get you going. A relative of mine worked for BAe and managed to get a list of corporate operators at FAB, I contacting them all and showed keen and ultimately got a job on the Citation. A year later with 500 turbine hours and people were much keener to interview me !
The old boys bit will always persist: once you are in an airline I am certain you would recommend mates without a job to give them a hand.A recommendation from an existing crewmember will always carry weight !!
Don't despair, I almost lost my marbles with the constant round of CV flinging and cold calling when I was without a job, get an angle. Good luck
