ATPL or CPL Flight Training... USA, Canada, or Australia??
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ATPL or CPL Flight Training... USA, Canada, or Australia??
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Where would you suggest to start Flight Training in either the USA, Canada or Australia. Preferably well reputated ones, and ones that have a good pass rate ect..
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Where would you suggest to start Flight Training in either the USA, Canada or Australia. Preferably well reputated ones, and ones that have a good pass rate ect..
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Depends, if I was Canadian, I would start flight training in Canada. If I was Australian, I would start training in Australia. Iīm from the USA, so I started training in the USA. I got rights to work and live in Europe, so then I did some training in Europe.
If you do a search on here, you will see there is some Irish guy who got his license in Australia and then went back to Ireland, and he has found his license quite useless in finding a job. He even said he regrets not getting his JAA license from the beginning. There is another chap on this forum who was asking about how he could build time with an FAA (USA) license in the UK, since he canīt get a job in the UK on his FAA license.
See a trend?
What is your end goal? If you answer this, we can give you a better answer.
If you do a search on here, you will see there is some Irish guy who got his license in Australia and then went back to Ireland, and he has found his license quite useless in finding a job. He even said he regrets not getting his JAA license from the beginning. There is another chap on this forum who was asking about how he could build time with an FAA (USA) license in the UK, since he canīt get a job in the UK on his FAA license.
See a trend?
What is your end goal? If you answer this, we can give you a better answer.
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Hey Zondaracer, thanks for your reply. I am from the UK, and as most of the good, well known FTO's cost over in excess Ģ80,000, I am planning to head off abroad, and get my ATPL licence somewhere abroad, as Im sure you will know as well as I do, that the training in the US is defo cheaper than here in the UK.
I am setting my plans on heading into the Commercial side of Aviation, in the Airlines.
That is my only worry though, sitting my Exams in the likes of the US, and if I ever wanted to come back to the UK (which there is a good chance of me doing) I would find the exams useless that I just sat.
There must be some FTO's in the USA, Canada or Australia in which base their courses on the likes of the JAA? or am I wrong?
I am setting my plans on heading into the Commercial side of Aviation, in the Airlines.
That is my only worry though, sitting my Exams in the likes of the US, and if I ever wanted to come back to the UK (which there is a good chance of me doing) I would find the exams useless that I just sat.
There must be some FTO's in the USA, Canada or Australia in which base their courses on the likes of the JAA? or am I wrong?
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Originally Posted by PilotDiscussion
Where would you suggest to start Flight Training in either the USA, Canada or Australia.
and if I ever wanted to come back to the UK
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I do not have residency in any of these countries, but I was looking at "AYLA Aviation" based in Jordan, they do look like a really good Training Organisation, who study the JAA courses. I think they issue some sort of certificate for overseas students in which can account for residency.
So I would have thought that other FTO's would do something similar to that! Maybe im wrong! :S
So I would have thought that other FTO's would do something similar to that! Maybe im wrong! :S
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You have quite a bit of research to do, but let me give you a headstart...
Most schools in the US do FAA training, so they use the FAA exams and testing criteria, FAA testing centers and FAA examiners. You end up with an FAA license. Your license is valid for flying US Registered aircraft (there are some exceptions, but not many). If you do your training in the US, and you donīt have residency, you will most likely have to return back to your home country (or Europe in this case). Your FAA license will be very limiting in finding a job, most likely requiring a license conversion to the JAA system. This conversion will cost around 15,000GBP, more or less. (This is the same if you got your license in either Canada or Australia as well). This license conversion cost eliminates much of the price savings of going overseas to do a license. Having said this, there are four JAA approved schools with JAA examiners and a JAA testing center in the US (but I recommend you do some research on this as most of them donīt have favorable reviews). Plus, you will have to return to Europe and do an IR conversion anyway, which adds to the price.
You also mentioned this...
Well, those are most likely integrated courses in the UK. If you go abroad to save money, you will not be going to a Ļwell known FTOĻ in the eyes of future employers.
I recommend you read this...
http://www.pprune.org/professional-p...ated-look.html
If you really want to save money, I know of places in Europe (but outside the UK), that do 0 to fATPL for less than 40,000.
I would recommend that you start contacting different schools, in the UK and elsewhere in Europe, to get an idea of the varying costs that you can expect to spend. Then, contact schools overseas to compare prices (donīt forget to add in airfare and visa costs, etc). Then add the license conversion cost.
You will see that, even in the UK, you donīt need to spend 80,000 GBP. If you are going to go abroad and do a modular course or do a non-JAA license with a JAA conversion, it wonīt be an integrated course anyway. (plus, people on here are going to tell you that you are mad for even thinking about spending that kind of money on flight training in this current economic climate).
So, I have given you a pretty good head start on the research you need to do before you make your decision, and in the end, it is your decision to make. This site has quite a bit of info.
Most schools in the US do FAA training, so they use the FAA exams and testing criteria, FAA testing centers and FAA examiners. You end up with an FAA license. Your license is valid for flying US Registered aircraft (there are some exceptions, but not many). If you do your training in the US, and you donīt have residency, you will most likely have to return back to your home country (or Europe in this case). Your FAA license will be very limiting in finding a job, most likely requiring a license conversion to the JAA system. This conversion will cost around 15,000GBP, more or less. (This is the same if you got your license in either Canada or Australia as well). This license conversion cost eliminates much of the price savings of going overseas to do a license. Having said this, there are four JAA approved schools with JAA examiners and a JAA testing center in the US (but I recommend you do some research on this as most of them donīt have favorable reviews). Plus, you will have to return to Europe and do an IR conversion anyway, which adds to the price.
You also mentioned this...
well known FTO's cost over in excess Ģ80,000,
I recommend you read this...
http://www.pprune.org/professional-p...ated-look.html
If you really want to save money, I know of places in Europe (but outside the UK), that do 0 to fATPL for less than 40,000.
I would recommend that you start contacting different schools, in the UK and elsewhere in Europe, to get an idea of the varying costs that you can expect to spend. Then, contact schools overseas to compare prices (donīt forget to add in airfare and visa costs, etc). Then add the license conversion cost.
You will see that, even in the UK, you donīt need to spend 80,000 GBP. If you are going to go abroad and do a modular course or do a non-JAA license with a JAA conversion, it wonīt be an integrated course anyway. (plus, people on here are going to tell you that you are mad for even thinking about spending that kind of money on flight training in this current economic climate).
So, I have given you a pretty good head start on the research you need to do before you make your decision, and in the end, it is your decision to make. This site has quite a bit of info.
Last edited by zondaracer; 30th Nov 2011 at 08:19. Reason: grammar/typos
