UAS Hours??
UAS Hours??
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Yes they can! Recently HQEFT and CAA have got together a scheme whereby you can count all your UAS/JEFTS hours as the qualifying needed to gain/renew a PPL. As we understand it, you only need to do 2 exams (Air Law and a.n.other) and the Final Flying Check or whatever it is, and as long as you are good enough, away you go.. .Don't know about IF hours being allowed to count towards a civvie IRT, or a mil. IRT crossover. Best ask the CAA about that one!
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All the hours count as the PPL is issued on the basis of single engine piston, which of course UAS hours all are. These are counted in full, plus you can add an allowance for taxi time if these have not been included by yourself in the past (ie you use the military logged t/o to touchdown time).
The mil to civy hours conversion is 0.1 added to every mil hour logged (actually its 6 minutes now that JAR requires logging to the nearest minute).
Remember to log those Aero hours - great later when you want the rating.
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Remember to log those Aero hours - great later when you want the rating.
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To all ex-UAS guys or gals,
You now have an aerobatic rating as far as the CAA is concerned, as there is no such rating!!! It is experience that counts, preferably on type or similar, and away you go.
A typical aerobatic "experience" course is around 8 hours plus groundschool and is based on a typical PPL chap with no aerobatic training. If you have passed spin aeros check then you are already up to this standard so don't bother with a course. It would be sensible however to gain some type experience if the a/c is different to what you trained on.
On a note for FI's (me)- to remove the no aerobatic instruction restriction you must complete a course of 5 hrs + 8 hrs groundschool at an approved FTO with an FIC instructor.
Have fun pulling the wings off!
[ 25 January 2002: Message edited by: Barney Stubble ]</p>
You now have an aerobatic rating as far as the CAA is concerned, as there is no such rating!!! It is experience that counts, preferably on type or similar, and away you go.
A typical aerobatic "experience" course is around 8 hours plus groundschool and is based on a typical PPL chap with no aerobatic training. If you have passed spin aeros check then you are already up to this standard so don't bother with a course. It would be sensible however to gain some type experience if the a/c is different to what you trained on.
On a note for FI's (me)- to remove the no aerobatic instruction restriction you must complete a course of 5 hrs + 8 hrs groundschool at an approved FTO with an FIC instructor.
Have fun pulling the wings off!
[ 25 January 2002: Message edited by: Barney Stubble ]</p>
Chums - go to <a href="http://www.srg.caa.co.uk" target="_blank">www.srg.caa.co.uk</a> and look for GID 21 Version 4 - it'll tell you all you need to know.
There are generous allowances towards both theoretical and flying requirements for JEFTS and EFT graduates who have completed their courses; however, although UAS flying time counts, there is NO allowance towards JAR/FCL PPL exams for UAS-only pilots. And quite rightly so - your level of theoretical instruction and testing is woefully inadequate! Sorry - I say that both as an ex-UAS A2 QFI and as a current UK/FE(PPL)........
There are generous allowances towards both theoretical and flying requirements for JEFTS and EFT graduates who have completed their courses; however, although UAS flying time counts, there is NO allowance towards JAR/FCL PPL exams for UAS-only pilots. And quite rightly so - your level of theoretical instruction and testing is woefully inadequate! Sorry - I say that both as an ex-UAS A2 QFI and as a current UK/FE(PPL)........
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Sadly you are right BEagle when it comes to theoretical instruction, though I am trying on my UAS to do something about it. Sadly there are just not enough hours in the day, or staff available to carry it out.
