Bartolini Air Flight School
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Contact them and they will send estimated timelines for how long each part of the training will take. If they don't answer emails, try Facebook messaging them or phoning them. All training is done in Lodz, apart from the ATPL distance course which can be studied at home.
You can see where their pilots get hired on their Facebook page. I count fifty pilots hired this year, which isn't bad for a small school.
You can see where their pilots get hired on their Facebook page. I count fifty pilots hired this year, which isn't bad for a small school.
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From: UK
Time to complete the PPL
Hey Red Dragon
Did they give you an idea of the length of time to complete the PPL stage. When I contacted them they felt that 2.5 months was not enough time, im not sure if that weather related or more how busy the school is currently.
Thanks
[QUOTE=RedDragonFlyer;10347415]Contact them and they will send estimated timelines for how long each part of the training will take. If they don't answer emails, try Facebook messaging them or phoning them. All training is done in Lodz, apart from the ATPL distance course which can be studied at home.
Did they give you an idea of the length of time to complete the PPL stage. When I contacted them they felt that 2.5 months was not enough time, im not sure if that weather related or more how busy the school is currently.
Thanks
[QUOTE=RedDragonFlyer;10347415]Contact them and they will send estimated timelines for how long each part of the training will take. If they don't answer emails, try Facebook messaging them or phoning them. All training is done in Lodz, apart from the ATPL distance course which can be studied at home.
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From: Amantido
@coboltblue, two years ago I did my PPL in two months. Weather was good and I had two instructors that were pushing me to fly as progress was good and steady. So yes, it can be done. It really depends on the student's commitment and dedication, as well as weather of course.
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Thanks for the reply
They did mention starting the course and just seeing how far I get before my time runs out. Would breaking the training be really detrimental if the worst came to the worst. I'd likely have another 11 days the next month that I could use as well.
@coboltblue, two years ago I did my PPL in two months. Weather was good and I had two instructors that were pushing me to fly as progress was good and steady. So yes, it can be done. It really depends on the student's commitment and dedication, as well as weather of course.
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From: Amantido
I don't think breaking your PPL in more than one stint would be detrimental, but you have to account for extra training.
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Variable time frames
I contacted one school in Portugal thinking they would surely complete PPL's in a couple of months given the weather. Their estimate was 6 months?!?
I guess America could be an option, get an FAA licence, do the EASA ATPL exams, hour build in America then CPL ME/IR in Europe.
QUOTE=Banana Joe;10362233]Several unpredictable variables such as weather, maintenance and instructors availability come also into play. The school has always been rather busy but it seems they have recently started giving more conservative time frames. However, for me everything went fine and finished all of the steps in the time frames indicated by them.
I don't think breaking your PPL in more than one stint would be detrimental, but you have to account for extra training.[/QUOTE]
I guess America could be an option, get an FAA licence, do the EASA ATPL exams, hour build in America then CPL ME/IR in Europe.
QUOTE=Banana Joe;10362233]Several unpredictable variables such as weather, maintenance and instructors availability come also into play. The school has always been rather busy but it seems they have recently started giving more conservative time frames. However, for me everything went fine and finished all of the steps in the time frames indicated by them.
I don't think breaking your PPL in more than one stint would be detrimental, but you have to account for extra training.[/QUOTE]
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From: Amantido
You would not be the first one to obtain a double FAA and EASA PPL license then do the rest of the training in Europe. One of my course mates did exactly this and worked out very well for him, he obtained his PPL in Florida. However, be aware that you need to reserve your spot for the CPL-ME-IR, the waiting list for it is quite long and you have to give a realistic date to allow yourself time to pass ATPL exams. Postponing and finding a more suitable date at a second moment is not a given. The school is very busy and they try to keep the intake to a maximum of 9 persons per class per month with the aim to assure a steady pace of training with no interruptions. If you finish with ATPL exams earlier there might always be the odd cancellation and you can get in a course earlier, but that does not always happen.
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You would not be the first one to obtain a double FAA and EASA PPL license then do the rest of the training in Europe. One of my course mates did exactly this and worked out very well for him, he obtained his PPL in Florida. However, be aware that you need to reserve your spot for the CPL-ME-IR, the waiting list for it is quite long and you have to give a realistic date to allow yourself time to pass ATPL exams. Postponing and finding a more suitable date at a second moment is not a given. The school is very busy and they try to keep the intake to a maximum of 9 persons per class per month with the aim to assure a steady pace of training with no interruptions. If you finish with ATPL exams earlier there might always be the odd cancellation and you can get in a course earlier, but that does not always happen.
You also did your training with them?
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From: Amantido
EDIT
The school has actually always been busy, they have become increasingly popular and this led to their waiting period to increase.
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From: Amantido
In terms of honesty and transparency, Bartolini Air are in a different league of their own. About 2 weeks after I was done doing training with them I received an email where they asked me to get back to them with my IBAN as my account, unbeknownst to me, had a surplus of around 600 euro and they would return me the said amount.
I was not aware of that and I think most outfits would have kept it for themselves.
I was not aware of that and I think most outfits would have kept it for themselves.
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Can any recent graduates share their experiences of the school, particularly the CPL MEP IR course?
Also, were do people recommend staying whilst training there?
Also, were do people recommend staying whilst training there?
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From: Cannes
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They are pretty busy like most other (popular) schools. 2.5 months would most probably not be enough. Personally I haven't seen anyone get their PPL in this timeframe, 3-6 months or even more being more common. And this pretty much regardless of how available and committed you are. If for whatever reason your time for completing the PPL is limited or sitting around in Lodz for 6 months is not an option for you, you may want to consider another place imho (of course always being careful with promises).
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